4 ms·

How would you celebrate white culture?

nitwit005 10y ago
Type "celebration of black" into Google, look at the auto-complete results. Imagine those things, but with black flipped to white.
- balls187 10y ago
  That sort of celebration happens defacto. I guess you prefer it to be called out explicitly? Or when you were in grade school, did you only learn about ["black","asian","latino"] authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors, etc etc?
  - mc32 10y ago
    It depends what country you went to school in. So, yes, there are quite a few places where you will get only "["black","asian","latino"] authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors" till you get to university and get exposed to more. I mean, you don't think in Columbia, or Ukraine or the Philippines you'll read much American authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors, etc., other than those part of the global patrimony?
    - balls187 10y ago
      This entire thread is about the US.
      - mc32 10y ago
        So the US is exceptional and defies the phenomena we see in other countries?
        balls187 10y ago
        Strawman.
true_religion 10y ago
The United States is the only place that I have lived that has celebrated 'black culture'. It's in fact, the only place where the culture is even defined like that. Because the native ethnic cultures, and tribal ties were destroyed by years of slavery, the United States is one of the few places which has a culture for 'blacks' that's uniquely different from anything of a specific tribe. Being from a W. African country, I'm keenly aware that we do not celebrate 'Africanism', or even nationalism in any respect despite the government's best efforts to get us to do so. Everyone is broadly aware of their family, their tribe, and their choice religion/philosophy. With respect to white culture, I think it must be hard to celebrate it in isolation. Almost anything that you would want to celebrate, could be given to a specific nation (thus be patriotic, not race pride), or given to a specific European ethnicity (e.g. most foods, older music, and the like).
- balls187 10y ago
  > With respect to white culture, I think it must be hard to celebrate it in isolation. Almost anything that you would want to celebrate, could be given to a specific nation (thus be patriotic, not race pride) Or in other words, already celebrated everyday here in America.
  - CWuestefeld 10y ago
    celebrated != experienced
- glogla 10y ago
  > The United States is the only place that I have lived that has celebrated 'black culture'. It's in fact, the only place where the culture is even defined like that. Oh yes, that's a good point. In Europe, Germans celebrate German culture, Frenchmen celebrate French culture, etc. Culture is not considered to be the same thing as skin color.

Type "celebration of black" into Google, look at the auto-complete results. Imagine those things, but with black flipped to white.

balls187 10y ago
That sort of celebration happens defacto. I guess you prefer it to be called out explicitly? Or when you were in grade school, did you only learn about ["black","asian","latino"] authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors, etc etc?
- mc32 10y ago
  It depends what country you went to school in. So, yes, there are quite a few places where you will get only "["black","asian","latino"] authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors" till you get to university and get exposed to more. I mean, you don't think in Columbia, or Ukraine or the Philippines you'll read much American authors, musicians, scholars, scientists, inventors, actors, etc., other than those part of the global patrimony?
  - balls187 10y ago
    This entire thread is about the US.
    - mc32 10y ago
      So the US is exceptional and defies the phenomena we see in other countries?
      - balls187 10y ago
        Strawman.

true_religion 10y ago

The United States is the only place that I have lived that has celebrated 'black culture'. It's in fact, the only place where the culture is even defined like that. Because the native ethnic cultures, and tribal ties were destroyed by years of slavery, the United States is one of the few places which has a culture for 'blacks' that's uniquely different from anything of a specific tribe. Being from a W. African country, I'm keenly aware that we do not celebrate 'Africanism', or even nationalism in any respect despite the government's best efforts to get us to do so. Everyone is broadly aware of their family, their tribe, and their choice religion/philosophy. With respect to white culture, I think it must be hard to celebrate it in isolation. Almost anything that you would want to celebrate, could be given to a specific nation (thus be patriotic, not race pride), or given to a specific European ethnicity (e.g. most foods, older music, and the like).

balls187 10y ago
> With respect to white culture, I think it must be hard to celebrate it in isolation. Almost anything that you would want to celebrate, could be given to a specific nation (thus be patriotic, not race pride) Or in other words, already celebrated everyday here in America.
- CWuestefeld 10y ago
  celebrated != experienced
glogla 10y ago
> The United States is the only place that I have lived that has celebrated 'black culture'. It's in fact, the only place where the culture is even defined like that. Oh yes, that's a good point. In Europe, Germans celebrate German culture, Frenchmen celebrate French culture, etc. Culture is not considered to be the same thing as skin color.