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"And it's really easy for AirBnB to know exactly who rented the property for a given period, so if they do anything illegal (which includes noise violations), t

"And it's really easy for AirBnB to know exactly who rented the property for a given period, so if they do anything illegal (which includes noise violations), they'd be easy to track down with a warrant." You say that, but there are currently many, many cities trying to get Airbnb to deal with their illegal apartments, and yet Airbnb is stalling on that (presumably because if you shut down their illegal apartments, their valuation would implode). To your point, "affecting your neighbors" is a pretty tough thing to track down. Even if things seem to be going well, there's a difference between having stable neighbors who take care of the neighborhood and an unknown rolling of the dice every few days. If you have kids, it's an even bigger risk. It's very difficult to accurately judge just how much of an impact it has, which is why cities have set up zoning regulations.

JoshTriplett 10y ago
> You say that, but there are currently many, many cities trying to get Airbnb to deal with their illegal apartments Why should AirBnB want to help jurisdictions that are trying to shut it down completely under the guise of "illegal apartments/hotels"? It's an entirely different matter to help keep the residents of AirBnB rentals behaving well and not disturbing their neighbors, which seems completely reasonable. > there's a difference between having stable neighbors who take care of the neighborhood There's no guarantee that "stable" neighbors care either, and "take care of the neighborhood" would need to be a lot more precise to be either enforceable or appropriate. There's a reason we specifically looked for a house without a "neighborhood association", and several people I know who currently have such associations would like to get out from under them. Banning AirBnB does sound consistent with neighborhood-association-style politics, though. Saying you want to regulate tenancy duration rather than behavior seems a lot like choosing to reject browsers based on User-Agent rather than doing feature detection. All tenants should behave well regardless of tenancy duration; any well-behaved neighbor should be equivalently fine regardless of tenancy duration. > If you have kids, it's an even bigger risk. "Think of the children!" does not increase the weight of your argument. You're talking very nebulously about risk. The previous comments were specifically complaining about things like noise and late-night parties.

JoshTriplett 10y ago

> You say that, but there are currently many, many cities trying to get Airbnb to deal with their illegal apartments Why should AirBnB want to help jurisdictions that are trying to shut it down completely under the guise of "illegal apartments/hotels"? It's an entirely different matter to help keep the residents of AirBnB rentals behaving well and not disturbing their neighbors, which seems completely reasonable. > there's a difference between having stable neighbors who take care of the neighborhood There's no guarantee that "stable" neighbors care either, and "take care of the neighborhood" would need to be a lot more precise to be either enforceable or appropriate. There's a reason we specifically looked for a house without a "neighborhood association", and several people I know who currently have such associations would like to get out from under them. Banning AirBnB does sound consistent with neighborhood-association-style politics, though. Saying you want to regulate tenancy duration rather than behavior seems a lot like choosing to reject browsers based on User-Agent rather than doing feature detection. All tenants should behave well regardless of tenancy duration; any well-behaved neighbor should be equivalently fine regardless of tenancy duration. > If you have kids, it's an even bigger risk. "Think of the children!" does not increase the weight of your argument. You're talking very nebulously about risk. The previous comments were specifically complaining about things like noise and late-night parties.