> but it doesn't match what I've seen from the behaviour of hedonists. it matches what i've seen. > Furthermore, they aren't 'pain avoidant' they are 'pleasur

> but it doesn't match what I've seen from the behaviour of hedonists. it matches what i've seen. > Furthermore, they aren't 'pain avoidant' they are 'pleasure seeking', there's a big difference. no one is arguing that > I don't think what I said was unclear you put words in my mouth and then made up two other irrelevant arguments