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>but the thrown away food is hardly the reason people are hungry. What is the reason?

talmand 10y ago
From what I understand it's more of a delivery or logistics problem and its variations. Sometimes it's not worth it to certain people to deliver the food and in some cases someone takes the food before it arrives.
- tim333 10y ago
  These days it's mostly an economic thing. Food's there but some people don't have money to buy it. http://www.worldhunger.org/2015-world-hunger-and-poverty-facts-and-statistics/#hunger-number http://www.worldhunger.org/2015-world-hunger-and-poverty-fac...
  - deadmik3 10y ago
    That link (at least, the section you linked because I didn't read the entire page) doesn't say anything about it being economic, it just gives the numbers and even goes to show that we've apparently been making progress in reducing world hunger. Also, it's kind of a good thing for economic causes to be producing excess. The other option is to be under-producing (because 100% efficiency is a pretty hard target to hit, you're either going to be over or under). If this was the case, it would drive food prices up. So even though there would be no waste, there would be even more want.
    - jerf 10y ago
      While I'm generally libertarian and I don't like our current regime, I'm in favor of some modest government subsidies on food, especially food that is easy to store. The subsidies should take the form of the government buying and storing the food, and cycling out the middling-old food cheaply to those in need to keep the system moving. (This is not 'taking advantage' of those in need, because I'm explicitly spec'ing out foods that store well and aren't bad just because they're a bit older.) Because capitalism is remarkably efficient, which is just fine, until you plan for about 101% of the food you need this year and some unanticipated massive disaster happens. (Note that there is a such thing as an "anticipated" disaster. Capitalism does in fact plan for some slack in the system, through insurance, futures trading, and other mechanisms, which is why we don't starve every single time there's a minor drought. But it'll only plan for so many sigmas out from normal, whereas Mother Nature is not so polite.)
    - tim333 10y ago
      Ah sorry, I couldn't link properly. The bit I meant was: >What are the causes of hunger? >What are the causes of hunger is a fundamental question, with varied answers. >Poverty is the principal cause of hunger. The causes of poverty include poor people’s lack of resources, an extremely unequal income distribution in the world and within specific countries, conflict, and hunger itself. As of 2015 (2011 statistics), the World Bank has estimated that there were just over 1 billion poor people in developing countries who live on $1.25 a day or less...

From what I understand it's more of a delivery or logistics problem and its variations. Sometimes it's not worth it to certain people to deliver the food and in some cases someone takes the food before it arrives.

tim333 10y ago
These days it's mostly an economic thing. Food's there but some people don't have money to buy it. http://www.worldhunger.org/2015-world-hunger-and-poverty-facts-and-statistics/#hunger-number http://www.worldhunger.org/2015-world-hunger-and-poverty-fac...
- deadmik3 10y ago
  That link (at least, the section you linked because I didn't read the entire page) doesn't say anything about it being economic, it just gives the numbers and even goes to show that we've apparently been making progress in reducing world hunger. Also, it's kind of a good thing for economic causes to be producing excess. The other option is to be under-producing (because 100% efficiency is a pretty hard target to hit, you're either going to be over or under). If this was the case, it would drive food prices up. So even though there would be no waste, there would be even more want.
  - jerf 10y ago
    While I'm generally libertarian and I don't like our current regime, I'm in favor of some modest government subsidies on food, especially food that is easy to store. The subsidies should take the form of the government buying and storing the food, and cycling out the middling-old food cheaply to those in need to keep the system moving. (This is not 'taking advantage' of those in need, because I'm explicitly spec'ing out foods that store well and aren't bad just because they're a bit older.) Because capitalism is remarkably efficient, which is just fine, until you plan for about 101% of the food you need this year and some unanticipated massive disaster happens. (Note that there is a such thing as an "anticipated" disaster. Capitalism does in fact plan for some slack in the system, through insurance, futures trading, and other mechanisms, which is why we don't starve every single time there's a minor drought. But it'll only plan for so many sigmas out from normal, whereas Mother Nature is not so polite.)
  - tim333 10y ago
    Ah sorry, I couldn't link properly. The bit I meant was: >What are the causes of hunger? >What are the causes of hunger is a fundamental question, with varied answers. >Poverty is the principal cause of hunger. The causes of poverty include poor people’s lack of resources, an extremely unequal income distribution in the world and within specific countries, conflict, and hunger itself. As of 2015 (2011 statistics), the World Bank has estimated that there were just over 1 billion poor people in developing countries who live on $1.25 a day or less...