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well you're right, but as a side note multiple US presidents have authorized target killings in an undeclared war in countrys that are not part of this "war" wi

well you're right, but as a side note multiple US presidents have authorized target killings in an undeclared war in countrys that are not part of this "war" with civil casualties .... and both got reelected .... I'm from germany, we're helping because our government does nothing in stopping the use of Rammstein Airbase as drone satellite uplink. So we are also partly responsible. :( food for thought

jacquesm 10y ago
That's true but besides the point. Imagine Obama, Bush or Clinton calling on national TV for the killing of all drug addicts and pushers. > I'm from germany, we're helping because our government does nothing in stopping the use of Rammstein Airbase as drone satellite uplink. So we are also partly responsible. :( > food for thought Definitely, but totally OT.
- herbst 10y ago
  I don't want to be euphemistically. But i've seen several public interviews of all of them where they justified killing people they claimed to be terrorists. While numbers showed that a majority are actually civil victims. You can not really compare that, but i honestly think thats even worse. At least officially the philippines only kill THEIR PEOPLE people that damage THEIR society.
- aedron 10y ago
  It's not far from it, only they use the word 'terrorists'. Which is even more vague. And of course they kill indiscriminately whoever happens to be in a given targeted area.
- collyw 10y ago
  I could see Trump saying that.
pluma 10y ago
*Ramstein. The band name is actually an unintentional misspelling and was apparently originally called Rammstein-Flugschau (again with the misspelling; referring to the air show disaster in 1988 that killed 70 and injured hundreds).
atemerev 10y ago
People are not responsible for those they didn't vote for. I know, must be a German thing, but how am I responsible for those sick bastards I disagree with, even if most of the others agree? My persuasion powers are limited.
- herbst 10y ago
  I think thats really a german thing. Swiss media regularly makes fun of you because your society feels so disconnected to the politics. IMO if the majority of the society does not agree, it is also their fault if they still let it happen. Its (some kind of) democracy after all.
  - atemerev 10y ago
    I live in Switzerland.
herbst 10y ago
I think nobody in this thread thought the US would be somehow better. But in opposite to civilized countries this approach sounds really extreme.

jacquesm 10y ago

That's true but besides the point. Imagine Obama, Bush or Clinton calling on national TV for the killing of all drug addicts and pushers. > I'm from germany, we're helping because our government does nothing in stopping the use of Rammstein Airbase as drone satellite uplink. So we are also partly responsible. :( > food for thought Definitely, but totally OT.

herbst 10y ago
I don't want to be euphemistically. But i've seen several public interviews of all of them where they justified killing people they claimed to be terrorists. While numbers showed that a majority are actually civil victims. You can not really compare that, but i honestly think thats even worse. At least officially the philippines only kill THEIR PEOPLE people that damage THEIR society.
aedron 10y ago
It's not far from it, only they use the word 'terrorists'. Which is even more vague. And of course they kill indiscriminately whoever happens to be in a given targeted area.
collyw 10y ago
I could see Trump saying that.

pluma 10y ago

*Ramstein. The band name is actually an unintentional misspelling and was apparently originally called Rammstein-Flugschau (again with the misspelling; referring to the air show disaster in 1988 that killed 70 and injured hundreds).

atemerev 10y ago

People are not responsible for those they didn't vote for. I know, must be a German thing, but how am I responsible for those sick bastards I disagree with, even if most of the others agree? My persuasion powers are limited.

herbst 10y ago
I think thats really a german thing. Swiss media regularly makes fun of you because your society feels so disconnected to the politics. IMO if the majority of the society does not agree, it is also their fault if they still let it happen. Its (some kind of) democracy after all.
- atemerev 10y ago
  I live in Switzerland.

herbst 10y ago

I think nobody in this thread thought the US would be somehow better. But in opposite to civilized countries this approach sounds really extreme.