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Do you think there are circumstances where it's ok to shame fat women? E.g. if they had incorrect beliefs that lead to bad diets?

unethical_ban 10y ago
Perhaps if they make up reasons why being over is healthy, then yes. I disagree with the parents assertions that PB is unhealthy, but also disagree that people can't be criticized for their weight, if they have control over it.
frozenport 10y ago
Yes, especially if they are unhealthy.
- SixSigma 10y ago
  If they are fat they are already unhealthy.
  - SixSigma 10y ago
    You can't downvote it away.
peteretep 10y ago
> where it's ok to shame fat women I think shame is a poor tool for anything, but I think people who are overweight should be made aware of the health implications and continuously encouraged to lose weight, in much the same way that smokers are continuously reminded their habit is killing them.
- HeyLaughingBoy 10y ago
  Do you seriously believe that in this day and age, people are not aware of the health implications of being overweight? Or of smoking? Bear in mind that what you consider "encouragement" others may call "bugging me about my own choices."
  - peteretep 10y ago
    > people are not aware of the health implications of > being overweight > others may call "bugging me about my own choices" I believe that I will bear the health and related collateral costs of obese people via my contributions to my country's tax system. I will also bug you if I see you dropping litter in public places or smoking in an enclosed area that also encloses me.
- collyw 10y ago
  I always find it bizarre that overweight people get all the "positive body image" stuff in the press, despite it being well known that its unhealthy, while underweight people are never described that way. Neither are healthy.
  - peteretep 10y ago
    Over-eating is seen as a moral failure, in a way that under-eating is not, which probably is at the root of that.

unethical_ban 10y ago

Perhaps if they make up reasons why being over is healthy, then yes. I disagree with the parents assertions that PB is unhealthy, but also disagree that people can't be criticized for their weight, if they have control over it.

frozenport 10y ago

Yes, especially if they are unhealthy.

SixSigma 10y ago
If they are fat they are already unhealthy.
- SixSigma 10y ago
  You can't downvote it away.

peteretep 10y ago

> where it's ok to shame fat women I think shame is a poor tool for anything, but I think people who are overweight should be made aware of the health implications and continuously encouraged to lose weight, in much the same way that smokers are continuously reminded their habit is killing them.

HeyLaughingBoy 10y ago
Do you seriously believe that in this day and age, people are not aware of the health implications of being overweight? Or of smoking? Bear in mind that what you consider "encouragement" others may call "bugging me about my own choices."
- peteretep 10y ago
  > people are not aware of the health implications of > being overweight > others may call "bugging me about my own choices" I believe that I will bear the health and related collateral costs of obese people via my contributions to my country's tax system. I will also bug you if I see you dropping litter in public places or smoking in an enclosed area that also encloses me.
collyw 10y ago
I always find it bizarre that overweight people get all the "positive body image" stuff in the press, despite it being well known that its unhealthy, while underweight people are never described that way. Neither are healthy.
- peteretep 10y ago
  Over-eating is seen as a moral failure, in a way that under-eating is not, which probably is at the root of that.