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I can't wait for him to start selling these! I would buy one in a hot minute. My Saturn is collecting dust and there are so many games I just can't get my hands
by donatj 10y ago
I can't wait for him to start selling these! I would buy one in a hot minute. My Saturn is collecting dust and there are so many games I just can't get my hands on for my Saturn, and emulation in my experience hardly works. It's way too weird a machine.
- mjevans 10y agoI think that's both why they were so expensive back in the day AND why it was so hard to develop on (all I have -ever- heard about developing games for that platform).
- ekianjo 10y agoTo be fair most devs at the time completely ignored the second CPU because it was apparently very hard to make them work together. So they treated it as a single CPU console. Which kinds of defeats the purpose :)
- creshal 10y agoGoing by the Wikipedia description of it, they had multiplexed RAM access. So developers could choose between having two CPUs at half the RAM speed (4KiB CPU-local cache are enough to make up for it, right?) or a single CPU at full RAM speed.
- arprocter 10y agoI want to re-play Panzer Dragoon Saga so badly
- xyience 10y agoPanzer Dragoon Orta was on the x-box. :) Sega should really make an HD remastering of all of them though. Or even a new one. Especially after the sadness of Star Fox Zero.
- Grazester 10y agoIt is rumored that Panzer Dragoon Saga's source code was lost hence no HD version. I am not angry about it.
- kowdermeister 10y agoYes: https://youtu.be/jOyfZex7B3E?t=25m21s https://youtu.be/jOyfZex7B3E?t=25m21s
- kevin_thibedeau 10y agoAs an Aussie he's going to be subject to the TPPs DMCA-lite restrictions on circumvention devices once it's ratified.
- djsumdog 10y agoAustralia has some of the best reverse engineering laws currently. Those four kids reverse the Sydney train system legally (they did responsibly disclose n such).
- brokenmachine 10y ago?? link please?
- porjo 10y agohttp://m.smh.com.au/digital-life/consumer-security/free-ride-students-crack-ticket--algorithm-20121112-2984x.html http://m.smh.com.au/digital-life/consumer-security/free-ride...
- ekianjo 10y agoIs this retroactive though ? Does it apply to everything that was created before?
- estebank 10y agoContinued publication could be construed as an ongoing matter. IANAL.
- vacri 10y agoSad, really, given that the courts here have already ruled that circumvention is your right on equipment that you own.
- Benjamin_Dobell 10y agoI live in Australia and wrote Heimdall[1], an open-source reverse engineered tool for flashing Samsung phones. I can assure you, I am not looking forward to the TPP! [1] https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall
- christoph 10y agoIn case it helps, there is actually a very low tech solution to booting copied games on Saturn hardware that works with the vast majority of games released (especially expensive/rare/hard to find games like the Treasure releases). Tape/wedge the drive lid sensor down, power up with a real game in (you don't need to close the lid as the sensor believes the lid is always shut) and allow it do the initial copy protection check on your real disc. At this point it stops the disc for just less than second - just enough time to pull the real disc out and swap in a CD-R. It takes a little practice and potentially can damage the drive motor if your timing is frequently poor. Games this won't work with are those spanning multiple discs where you need to swap discs in game to progress.
- serge2k 10y agoI practiced this trick with my original playstation years ago. Then I killed it trying to mod it. Got a PS1 instead, couldn't figure out the trick anymore. It was funny that they kept on changing the points where the disc would read info, you had to swap multiple times at different points. They wouldn't stop either, just slow down.
- elwell 10y ago> Then I killed it trying to mod it. Ugh, don't remind me. My brother fried our n64 and our ps2 trying to mod them into handheld's (with built-in screen).
- pavel_lishin 10y agoI remember owning a "slim" ps2, but I'm still kind of boggled at the idea of compacting everything inside it into a "handheld" size.
- nathancahill 10y agoHah, yeah, I used to do that too with the PS1 until I modded it with a chip. It was flaky though, worked 50% of the time.
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- Grazester 10y agoThere is already an SD card drive for the Saturn. https://gdemu.wordpress.com/ https://gdemu.wordpress.com/ To achieve this did not require fully reverse engineering the cdrom controller but it is great someone did though.
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- rocky1138 10y agoI think you're mistaken: what you've linked is a Dreamcast project. OP's youtube link is for the Sega Saturn (the console before the Dreamcast).
- mikepavone 10y agoGDEMU is for the Dreamcast, but the same person/group also produced Phoebe and Rhea which are similar products for the Saturn. Those don't have a separate home page, but most of the menu entries at the top of the page have separate Phoebe and Rhea options.
- seanc722 10y agoIndeed! There are mod chips, etc. He ended up aiming for something that didn't require ripping it open and soldering.
- city41 10y agoThe Rhea/Phoebe require no soldering. Just pop out the CD drive, pop in the Rhea. Very simple.
- bydo 10y agoLooking at the installation instructions, the Rhea claims to require some soldering. The Phoebe doesn't, but still requires disassembling the system. They also each only work on specific versions of the hardware (20- vs 21-pin), and which version a specific Saturn is may not be obvious without disassembly. The nice thing about this new solution, even ignoring that it furthers public understanding of the hardware, is that it's a simple module that plugs into a slot already available and accessible on every Saturn ever sold by SEGA (presumably it won't work on the Hi-Saturn units made by Hitachi, as they had the MPEG hardware integrated, though they are also very rare and very expensive).
- StavrosK 10y agoDoes anyone know how you go from a PCB to a product? I've made PCBs before, but I wouldn't know where to begin to make it into a product that I can sell to people...
- ethbro 10y agoWell, if you want to sell it legally, testing and validation with the relevant government departments. If not, eBay and "intended for novelty use only"?
- elliottcarlson 10y agoFor PCB printing, OSH Park is a highly recommended one: https://oshpark.com/ https://oshpark.com/ For PCB assembly, http://www.4pcb.com/ http://www.4pcb.com/ is recommended. Some reviews from Lady Ada: http://www.ladyada.net/library/pcb/manufacturers.html http://www.ladyada.net/library/pcb/manufacturers.html Also check out http://pcbshopper.com/ http://pcbshopper.com/
- StavrosK 10y agoThank you, I've never seen a PCB assembly service, so that will be useful. I guess one would also need to design some sort of cover as well and talk to a company that makes plastics? Are there plastic assembly companies as well (for if your product has buttons/sprints/etc)?
- shabble 10y agoThere's Protomold[1] which does relatively cheap short runs of plastic manufacturing. I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives (and I recall seeing a massive chinese 3d printing contract manufacturer, but forget the name). Not sure about assembling all the parts into the case. Depending on who does the PCB production and assembly, they might also offer a full assembly service, or not. The Factory Floor series[2] by Bunnie Huang might be an interesting read about some of the steps necessary for getting an idea to production. [1] https://www.protolabs.com/injection-molding https://www.protolabs.com/injection-molding [2] https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?page_id=2812 https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?page_id=2812
- city41 10y agoYou can already buy the Saturn Rhea. It is pretty much the same thing except SD based and it replaces the CD drive. I have one and absolutely love it. It's honestly the best retro gaming purchase I have made in a very long time.
- Frenchgeek 10y agoDoes the Rhea have write support too?