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Why bother playing the game at all if you're paying to skip it?

nemo44x 10y ago
You're not. You're paying to play it more efficiently. I could spend 30 minutes collecting 8 Pokemon (lets say that gives you 3000XP) or I could use that same 30 minutes to collect 16 of them and double my XP on top of that (giving you 12,000XP). This lets me play the game faster. You aren't buying anything other than the ability to do more with less time.
kalleboo 10y ago
The delays in these games are designed to make you pay to skip them. If it wasn't a free-to-play game, the delays wouldn't have been there in the first place. They're just there to make the game worse.
- Nullabillity 10y ago
  Exactly. So play games that don't use these abusive tactics, instead of rewarding them...
  - nemo44x 10y ago
    You don't have to buy anything and the experience is just fine. There is nor requirement to buy anything - the game leaves plenty to do. It's just the option is there if you want to go faster. Also, it's a free game. If they charged $60, then I'd get your point. But the game is based on a "Freemium" model like tons of other software.
    - Nullabillity 10y ago
      > You don't have to buy anything and the experience is just fine. As implied by the earlier commenters, that's obviously not the case. > It's just the option is there if you want to go faster. It's only an "option" because they crippled the game in the first place. > Also, it's a free game. If they charged $60, then I'd get your point. But the game is based on a "Freemium" model like tons of other software. And thus, freemium is inherently abusive. But even then, there are more acceptable ways to do it. For example, look at how Smite does this: free to download, you can pick between grinding/microtransactions to unlock each character individually, or pay $30 to unlock everything in one go and effectively go back to what the game should have been from the start. Cosmetics are still paywalled, but at least there are no more microtransactions that have any effect on gameplay. I'm not against paying for games. I'm against constantly being hounded to pay for the same thing over and over again.

You're not. You're paying to play it more efficiently. I could spend 30 minutes collecting 8 Pokemon (lets say that gives you 3000XP) or I could use that same 30 minutes to collect 16 of them and double my XP on top of that (giving you 12,000XP). This lets me play the game faster. You aren't buying anything other than the ability to do more with less time.

kalleboo 10y ago

The delays in these games are designed to make you pay to skip them. If it wasn't a free-to-play game, the delays wouldn't have been there in the first place. They're just there to make the game worse.

Nullabillity 10y ago
Exactly. So play games that don't use these abusive tactics, instead of rewarding them...
- nemo44x 10y ago
  You don't have to buy anything and the experience is just fine. There is nor requirement to buy anything - the game leaves plenty to do. It's just the option is there if you want to go faster. Also, it's a free game. If they charged $60, then I'd get your point. But the game is based on a "Freemium" model like tons of other software.
  - Nullabillity 10y ago
    > You don't have to buy anything and the experience is just fine. As implied by the earlier commenters, that's obviously not the case. > It's just the option is there if you want to go faster. It's only an "option" because they crippled the game in the first place. > Also, it's a free game. If they charged $60, then I'd get your point. But the game is based on a "Freemium" model like tons of other software. And thus, freemium is inherently abusive. But even then, there are more acceptable ways to do it. For example, look at how Smite does this: free to download, you can pick between grinding/microtransactions to unlock each character individually, or pay $30 to unlock everything in one go and effectively go back to what the game should have been from the start. Cosmetics are still paywalled, but at least there are no more microtransactions that have any effect on gameplay. I'm not against paying for games. I'm against constantly being hounded to pay for the same thing over and over again.