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why? do you also refuse to put quarters in arcade machines?

by dilap 10y ago

LyndsySimon 10y ago
... not when I own the hardware :)
croon 10y ago
Not parent, but for me: Yes, I do. Arcade machines led to terribly designed games then, and running a game on purchases leads to terribly designed games now. This is not to say that there can't be good free-to-play games with IAP, but the vast majority of the payment models is terrible in game quality (not talking about success). I honestly have a hard time coming up with a good example of an app, but in the PC space, excellent examples of quality free-to-play meets success is TF2 and Dota 2 where you can't buy an advantage yet they are hugely profitable. I've spent at least 200 bucks on dota 2, and regret nothing. I have yet to spend any money on IAP in apps simply because I haven't seen any implementation I find acceptable.
- dilap 10y ago
  maybe my childhood has given me an overly rosy view of arcades? :) agreed theres plenty of bad implementations of iap, but i think with time people are figuring out how to do it well. i must confess im not much of a gamer in adulthood, but eg i think space team and clash royale are both excellent apps w/ iap. (as a side-note, most online advertising is much more aggravating to me than purchases!)
  - croon 10y ago
    Funny you should mention it, but I've played a fair amount of Clash Royale as well (level 8 at upper arena 5). I still have a hard time recommending it though. It's such a great game in there, but I feel the IAP and the structure around it is what plagues it. Pacing it to gouge money to unlock chests, no max levels on cards (especially in tournaments), selling epics and chests etc. I wish there was or I could come up with better ways to monetize it other than hats, but the game could be SO much better, and I would feel good about sinking money into it. The only thing that would happen, were I to put money into it, is that I would maybe bump up an arena or two earlier than otherwise, but then I would be in the exact same spot there instead. There's no end to the gouging, where gouging != possibility to put in more money.
kalleboo 10y ago
Didn't arcades pretty much die out once powerful game machines people could play as long as they wanted to for free became affordable?

why? do you also refuse to put quarters in arcade machines?

by dilap 10y ago

why? do you also refuse to put quarters in arcade machines?

LyndsySimon 10y ago

... not when I own the hardware :)

croon 10y ago

Not parent, but for me: Yes, I do. Arcade machines led to terribly designed games then, and running a game on purchases leads to terribly designed games now. This is not to say that there can't be good free-to-play games with IAP, but the vast majority of the payment models is terrible in game quality (not talking about success). I honestly have a hard time coming up with a good example of an app, but in the PC space, excellent examples of quality free-to-play meets success is TF2 and Dota 2 where you can't buy an advantage yet they are hugely profitable. I've spent at least 200 bucks on dota 2, and regret nothing. I have yet to spend any money on IAP in apps simply because I haven't seen any implementation I find acceptable.

dilap 10y ago
maybe my childhood has given me an overly rosy view of arcades? :) agreed theres plenty of bad implementations of iap, but i think with time people are figuring out how to do it well. i must confess im not much of a gamer in adulthood, but eg i think space team and clash royale are both excellent apps w/ iap. (as a side-note, most online advertising is much more aggravating to me than purchases!)
- croon 10y ago
  Funny you should mention it, but I've played a fair amount of Clash Royale as well (level 8 at upper arena 5). I still have a hard time recommending it though. It's such a great game in there, but I feel the IAP and the structure around it is what plagues it. Pacing it to gouge money to unlock chests, no max levels on cards (especially in tournaments), selling epics and chests etc. I wish there was or I could come up with better ways to monetize it other than hats, but the game could be SO much better, and I would feel good about sinking money into it. The only thing that would happen, were I to put money into it, is that I would maybe bump up an arena or two earlier than otherwise, but then I would be in the exact same spot there instead. There's no end to the gouging, where gouging != possibility to put in more money.

kalleboo 10y ago

Didn't arcades pretty much die out once powerful game machines people could play as long as they wanted to for free became affordable?