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"Planned society" is so vague as to be meaningless anyway. "Planned society" certainly can include UBI, though you appear to suppose it doesn't. It can mean bas
by deciplex 10y ago
"Planned society" is so vague as to be meaningless anyway. "Planned society" certainly can include UBI, though you appear to suppose it doesn't. It can mean basically anything where you have a government that enforces laws, really, including laissez-faire capitalism.
For the sake of argument I guess you mean "planned economy" but you don't have to support that to support a welfare state, either. Sounds to me like you're strawmanning the hell out of liberals.
- marcoperaza 10y agoFair enough. "Planned society" was indeed too broad here. I think "paternalistic state" is more accurate. I think that, almost by definition, if you support a traditional welfare state over a UBI, you want a paternalistic state. OR you think that industries like health care are best directly run by the state (because otherwise, a UBI would allow everyone to buy coverage in the private market, if they choose to). That's a planned economy there. And "the economy" is such an overwhelming portion of what we call a society, that a planned economy is effectively a planned society in my eyes.