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Is there any chance Theranos could possibly recover from all this? I'm kind of surprised they're still even operating. Maybe replace the CEO or something. The

Is there any chance Theranos could possibly recover from all this? I'm kind of surprised they're still even operating. Maybe replace the CEO or something. The core idea of the technology still seems like a good one. It just needs rigorous testing and consent.

spotman 10y ago
Good idea; bad execution. It's an expensive to question to answer whether they are worth a second shot at this point. My money is on no, the brand is tarnished, but some day the idea seems like it will resurface, and when it does whoever shows some more evidence of real technology will be quickly funded.
- daveguy 10y ago
  But was it a good idea? There seems to be serious questions as to whether you can collect just a drop of blood and get accurate test results in the presence of tissue and extracellular fluid.
  - SapphireSun 10y ago
    I've seen a lot of people say that, and I believe them. This idea just occurred to me though... what if you use a gentle vacuum to pull more blood out of the pinprick? I get the impression that you need a lot more volume to even out the variations, but if you collected 5x more, maybe there are a few more tests you could do.
    - madgar 10y ago
      The entire point was to not draw much blood. Even trying to solve the problem by drawing more blood would be a tacit admission of failure and a huge signaling risk.
      - SapphireSun 10y ago
        For Theano sure, but maybe for someone else it could be worth a try. I think the draw was less how much blood needed to be drawn and more how invasive the needle is. You can always hide the blood from view if necessary.
  - nikanj 10y ago
    It's a good idea the same way UBeam is a good idea: it would be superb if it wasn't physically impossible.
    - dogma1138 10y ago
      That's not a good idea, it might be a good fantasy, an idea needs to be at least somehow feasible and not be contradicted by the laws of physics.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> Maybe replace the CEO or something. Holmes is, as I understand, not only CEO but also the majority shareholder and holds a class of stock with disproportional voting rights on top of that; so, but for a few layers of legal fiction, Theranos is Holmes.
- hellomoto998 10y ago
  That is awesome.

spotman 10y ago

Good idea; bad execution. It's an expensive to question to answer whether they are worth a second shot at this point. My money is on no, the brand is tarnished, but some day the idea seems like it will resurface, and when it does whoever shows some more evidence of real technology will be quickly funded.

daveguy 10y ago
But was it a good idea? There seems to be serious questions as to whether you can collect just a drop of blood and get accurate test results in the presence of tissue and extracellular fluid.
- SapphireSun 10y ago
  I've seen a lot of people say that, and I believe them. This idea just occurred to me though... what if you use a gentle vacuum to pull more blood out of the pinprick? I get the impression that you need a lot more volume to even out the variations, but if you collected 5x more, maybe there are a few more tests you could do.
  - madgar 10y ago
    The entire point was to not draw much blood. Even trying to solve the problem by drawing more blood would be a tacit admission of failure and a huge signaling risk.
    - SapphireSun 10y ago
      For Theano sure, but maybe for someone else it could be worth a try. I think the draw was less how much blood needed to be drawn and more how invasive the needle is. You can always hide the blood from view if necessary.
- nikanj 10y ago
  It's a good idea the same way UBeam is a good idea: it would be superb if it wasn't physically impossible.
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    That's not a good idea, it might be a good fantasy, an idea needs to be at least somehow feasible and not be contradicted by the laws of physics.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> Maybe replace the CEO or something. Holmes is, as I understand, not only CEO but also the majority shareholder and holds a class of stock with disproportional voting rights on top of that; so, but for a few layers of legal fiction, Theranos is Holmes.

hellomoto998 10y ago
That is awesome.