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I'm sorry to say this, but the life of your company, and by proxy your residence, is always subject to factors beyond your control -- random disruptions you nee

I'm sorry to say this, but the life of your company, and by proxy your residence, is always subject to factors beyond your control -- random disruptions you need to get around. You could be hit by a bus. It's not all that uncommon. These constraints are a matter of degree.

idlewords 17y ago
Getting deported because your business failed to meet an earnings goal is not a random disruption, and it's pretty un-American to boot. We have laws that let you keep your home in the event of bankruptcy for exactly this reason - the understanding that failure in business should not force you to uproot your family, which is what this bill proposes.
- DaniFong 17y ago
  Absolutely; I don't assert that being kicked out is a good thing, but it's likely a requirement for the bill to pass, and the relevant effected parties would, like me, prefer to be able to choose. This is just one more slightly less risky channel through which entrepreneurs, if they accept the risks, can travel. You would deny them this because you wouldn't be willing to take those risks yourself? It's that which seems unamerican.
psranga 17y ago
You can't have it both ways. In one breath you want to welcome highly-qualified people to start companies. In the next, you dismiss the concerns of such people about having to leave in two weeks if the business fails after two years without being given an opportunity to reboot with a glib comparison to getting hit by a bus. Hint: chance of business failing is (thankfully) much higher than getting hit by a bus.
- DaniFong 17y ago
  I don't dismiss these concerns: I've lived them. I spent months contracting for a little startup helping them out for a little pay so that I could try to plant the seeds for my own startup so that it would look legitimate enough to the immigration people that I could get a visa for it. It's risky and scary and tenuous, and it's hard work, and I didn't have a home at the time, either: I couch surfed with a variety of very generous friends. My point is that there are certain risks one can take on the way to success. I'm not arguing that these risks shouldn't be mitigated, I'm saying that you, personally, shouldn't consider them as different in kind of the other risks that you face as an entrepreneur. Such limitations are too easily transformed into excuses.

idlewords 17y ago

Getting deported because your business failed to meet an earnings goal is not a random disruption, and it's pretty un-American to boot. We have laws that let you keep your home in the event of bankruptcy for exactly this reason - the understanding that failure in business should not force you to uproot your family, which is what this bill proposes.

DaniFong 17y ago
Absolutely; I don't assert that being kicked out is a good thing, but it's likely a requirement for the bill to pass, and the relevant effected parties would, like me, prefer to be able to choose. This is just one more slightly less risky channel through which entrepreneurs, if they accept the risks, can travel. You would deny them this because you wouldn't be willing to take those risks yourself? It's that which seems unamerican.

psranga 17y ago

You can't have it both ways. In one breath you want to welcome highly-qualified people to start companies. In the next, you dismiss the concerns of such people about having to leave in two weeks if the business fails after two years without being given an opportunity to reboot with a glib comparison to getting hit by a bus. Hint: chance of business failing is (thankfully) much higher than getting hit by a bus.

DaniFong 17y ago
I don't dismiss these concerns: I've lived them. I spent months contracting for a little startup helping them out for a little pay so that I could try to plant the seeds for my own startup so that it would look legitimate enough to the immigration people that I could get a visa for it. It's risky and scary and tenuous, and it's hard work, and I didn't have a home at the time, either: I couch surfed with a variety of very generous friends. My point is that there are certain risks one can take on the way to success. I'm not arguing that these risks shouldn't be mitigated, I'm saying that you, personally, shouldn't consider them as different in kind of the other risks that you face as an entrepreneur. Such limitations are too easily transformed into excuses.