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If I'm visiting the site without javascript (using noscript) I get a blank page. Please add a error message that javascript is required.

by 0XAFFE 10y ago

ryanSrich 10y ago
How do you use the internet in 2016 without JavaScript?
- stenius 10y ago
  You disable it in your browser or most likely run something like noscript to maintain a white list.
  - raarts 10y ago
    I think parent meant: how is the Internet usable with javascript turned off? How can you bear it?
    - ryanSrich 10y ago
      ^ as evident by the replies I wasn't as obvious as I could have been.
- zxexz 10y ago
  AFAIK all modern browsers offer the ability to turn off JavaScript globally. Add-ons such as NoScript for Firefox give you more control though. I use NoScript to have all JS disabled by default on a page, and turn on/enable specific sources as necessary. On zencastr, I noticed that the page wasn't loading so I temporarily white-listed the site, and it is visible now. A common and, IMO not-unreasonable view is that all content on the web should be viewable on the web with just HTML and CSS (sometimes even without the latter) and thus JS should never be required save for specific tasks such as in-browser computation and the like. That's a bit extreme for me, so I just white-list scripts as needed.
- gorm 10y ago
  Around 1% of users run without js. If you have a commercial site you will loose money and users if you don't think about this.
  - neotek 10y ago
    Will you though? What's the cost of the extra development and maintenance you'll need to do to cater for such a tiny sliver of the population, many of whom will just whitelist your site if they're interested in your content?
  - Zelmor 10y ago
    Around 1% of users run linux. If you have a commercial videogame, you will lose money and users if you don't think about this. Now consider the ROI. I'm a full time linux user myself, and still I understand when someone says 'sorry but such a small market share is not worth bothering with.'
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  I use NoScript for security reasons. I find that I usually only have to turn on 1 or 2 scripts to get the content on the site to show. If even that as many show it without scripts. It's a tiny percentage, often using fancy crap underneath, that absolutely require JavaScript to even see static content. I don't loose much ignoring them but gain plenty in security, loading speed, and battery savings.
matthewowen 10y ago
Pretty sure to the nearest approximation that at this point everyone who is browsing the internet without javascript knows that they have javascript disabled and knows that it will break sites. What's the point of an error message explaining that to them?

If I'm visiting the site without javascript (using noscript) I get a blank page. Please add a error message that javascript is required.

by 0XAFFE 10y ago

If I'm visiting the site without javascript (using noscript) I get a blank page. Please add a error message that javascript is required.

ryanSrich 10y ago

How do you use the internet in 2016 without JavaScript?

stenius 10y ago
You disable it in your browser or most likely run something like noscript to maintain a white list.
- raarts 10y ago
  I think parent meant: how is the Internet usable with javascript turned off? How can you bear it?
  - ryanSrich 10y ago
    ^ as evident by the replies I wasn't as obvious as I could have been.
zxexz 10y ago
AFAIK all modern browsers offer the ability to turn off JavaScript globally. Add-ons such as NoScript for Firefox give you more control though. I use NoScript to have all JS disabled by default on a page, and turn on/enable specific sources as necessary. On zencastr, I noticed that the page wasn't loading so I temporarily white-listed the site, and it is visible now. A common and, IMO not-unreasonable view is that all content on the web should be viewable on the web with just HTML and CSS (sometimes even without the latter) and thus JS should never be required save for specific tasks such as in-browser computation and the like. That's a bit extreme for me, so I just white-list scripts as needed.
gorm 10y ago
Around 1% of users run without js. If you have a commercial site you will loose money and users if you don't think about this.
- neotek 10y ago
  Will you though? What's the cost of the extra development and maintenance you'll need to do to cater for such a tiny sliver of the population, many of whom will just whitelist your site if they're interested in your content?
- Zelmor 10y ago
  Around 1% of users run linux. If you have a commercial videogame, you will lose money and users if you don't think about this. Now consider the ROI. I'm a full time linux user myself, and still I understand when someone says 'sorry but such a small market share is not worth bothering with.'
nickpsecurity 10y ago
I use NoScript for security reasons. I find that I usually only have to turn on 1 or 2 scripts to get the content on the site to show. If even that as many show it without scripts. It's a tiny percentage, often using fancy crap underneath, that absolutely require JavaScript to even see static content. I don't loose much ignoring them but gain plenty in security, loading speed, and battery savings.

matthewowen 10y ago

Pretty sure to the nearest approximation that at this point everyone who is browsing the internet without javascript knows that they have javascript disabled and knows that it will break sites. What's the point of an error message explaining that to them?