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Do You Really Need a Dedicated Graphics Card to Play Your Favorite Games?

17 points by Oletros 10y ago

probably_wrong 10y ago
Alternative title: "here's an ad for Intel's new computer disguised as an article, and one paragraph about Overwatch"
- Avshalom 10y ago
  right, not even one mention of AMD which until very recently (if even now, I haven't seen the actual benchmarks) has been beating Intel's embedded offerings hands down for years.
frou_dh 10y ago
Is this what they call Native Advertising?
- spacehome 10y ago
  This is what they call "The Submarine". http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
- dublinben 10y ago
  No, this[0] is native advertising for Intel. The differences are there. [0] http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/to-protect-privacy-one-developer-aims-to-design-a-more-decentralized-internet http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/to-protect-privacy-one-deve...
Pica_soO 10y ago
Yes
jkot 10y ago
In many cases the dedicated graphic is cheaper than integrated. Intel Iris comes in more expensive processors which are not necessary for games. You might pay extra $300 on great CPU with integrated card, over slower CPU with dedicated GPU. For example I saved $280 on my Dell XPS 13. It only has Intel HD Graphics 520 compared to Intel Iris Pro Graphics P580. CPU is same, except 100MHz clock.
JanneVee 10y ago
At what screen resolution?
Fej 10y ago
Yes. Skull Canyon is overpriced anyway.
falcolas 10y ago
With all due respect to the author, I do not consider "Overwatch was a completely playable 30+ FPS" to be acceptable for a PC shooter. It may be the bare minimum required to play, but not usually an enjoyable experience; it ends up being a janky, stuttering mess.
- marak830 10y ago
  I honestly don't believe I could stand any fps at 30 frames. Look I'm not in the 120hrz only way to play camp, but I really notice if I drop under 55-60, and it makes me frustrated. This may be tied into the movement being much rougher at this point.
Negative1 10y ago
I believe in industry parlance this is called an Advertorial (an advertisement dressed as an editorial). I didn't see a disclaimer though so either they are being dishonest with their audience or very tone deaf. The NUC seems more like a Mac Mini than a real desktop PC and comparing it to a gaming PC is just strange. Despite their argument, yes, if you want to play games at optimal graphics and performance levels you DO still need a discrete GPU. Even game consoles (which require a fast data bus) have a discrete GPU despite their (usually) unified memory architecture.
- dublinben 10y ago
  Intel is one of their current advertisers/sponsors, but those articles are clearly marked with a banner and the "sponsored" tag. This article does not appear to be directly paid for. http://motherboard.vice.com/tag/sponsored http://motherboard.vice.com/tag/sponsored
soared 10y ago
Betteridge's law would disagree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...
oxide 10y ago
Integrated offerings from Intel have always been substandard. Claiming someone can make due with 30fps in a competitve fps shows a glaring level of ignorance from the author. Can you play with 30fps? Yes. You can also play with a blindfold on and a hand tied behind your back. Given the choice, why play at a distinct, undeniable disadvantage?

17 points by Oletros 10y ago

probably_wrong 10y ago

Alternative title: "here's an ad for Intel's new computer disguised as an article, and one paragraph about Overwatch"

Avshalom 10y ago
right, not even one mention of AMD which until very recently (if even now, I haven't seen the actual benchmarks) has been beating Intel's embedded offerings hands down for years.

frou_dh 10y ago

Is this what they call Native Advertising?

spacehome 10y ago
This is what they call "The Submarine". http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html
dublinben 10y ago
No, this[0] is native advertising for Intel. The differences are there. [0] http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/to-protect-privacy-one-developer-aims-to-design-a-more-decentralized-internet http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/to-protect-privacy-one-deve...

Pica_soO 10y ago

Yes

jkot 10y ago

In many cases the dedicated graphic is cheaper than integrated. Intel Iris comes in more expensive processors which are not necessary for games. You might pay extra $300 on great CPU with integrated card, over slower CPU with dedicated GPU. For example I saved $280 on my Dell XPS 13. It only has Intel HD Graphics 520 compared to Intel Iris Pro Graphics P580. CPU is same, except 100MHz clock.

JanneVee 10y ago

At what screen resolution?

Fej 10y ago

Yes. Skull Canyon is overpriced anyway.

falcolas 10y ago

With all due respect to the author, I do not consider "Overwatch was a completely playable 30+ FPS" to be acceptable for a PC shooter. It may be the bare minimum required to play, but not usually an enjoyable experience; it ends up being a janky, stuttering mess.

marak830 10y ago
I honestly don't believe I could stand any fps at 30 frames. Look I'm not in the 120hrz only way to play camp, but I really notice if I drop under 55-60, and it makes me frustrated. This may be tied into the movement being much rougher at this point.

Negative1 10y ago

I believe in industry parlance this is called an Advertorial (an advertisement dressed as an editorial). I didn't see a disclaimer though so either they are being dishonest with their audience or very tone deaf. The NUC seems more like a Mac Mini than a real desktop PC and comparing it to a gaming PC is just strange. Despite their argument, yes, if you want to play games at optimal graphics and performance levels you DO still need a discrete GPU. Even game consoles (which require a fast data bus) have a discrete GPU despite their (usually) unified memory architecture.

dublinben 10y ago
Intel is one of their current advertisers/sponsors, but those articles are clearly marked with a banner and the "sponsored" tag. This article does not appear to be directly paid for. http://motherboard.vice.com/tag/sponsored http://motherboard.vice.com/tag/sponsored

soared 10y ago

Betteridge's law would disagree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...

oxide 10y ago

Integrated offerings from Intel have always been substandard. Claiming someone can make due with 30fps in a competitve fps shows a glaring level of ignorance from the author. Can you play with 30fps? Yes. You can also play with a blindfold on and a hand tied behind your back. Given the choice, why play at a distinct, undeniable disadvantage?