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Linux might be a small (but rising) percentage. But the bigger point is that Linux is a free operating system. If Linux can't run web content, that means 1. Yo

by azakai 10y ago

Linux might be a small (but rising) percentage. But the bigger point is that Linux is a free operating system. If Linux can't run web content, that means 1. You need to pay someone for an OS in order to view the web. 2. The OS market isn't open, someone else can't just make an OS that people will use, because it can't view the web.

acdha 10y ago
You seem to be ignoring the fact that Chrome for Linux exists but even if it didn't, it seems liked you're trying to argue that other people should be compelled to support your operating system of choice, not to mention conflating a small percentage of content with “the web". Was the OS market not open when Flash for Linux didn't exist? FreeBSD? TempleOS? What percentage of content needs to use EME before you “can't view the web”? If everything else but Netflix works, is the web open or closed? More to the point, what do you expect to accomplish here – is hyperbole going to convince people to use Linux, cancel their Netflix/Amazon/etc. subscription, etc? If not, I would again suggest finding an argument which will appeal to a non-trivial number of people. Why should they care enough to change their spending or contact their representatives?
- khedoros 10y ago
  > What percentage of content needs to use EME before you “can't view the web”? If everything else but Netflix works, is the web open or closed? If the EME are part of the HTML5 standard, but in practice they require some proprietary blob to operate, then the web isn't completely open. It doesn't mean that it's completely closed. Whether that matters depends, I suppose, on whether you want to take a pragmatic or ideological stance. > More to the point, what do you expect to accomplish here Does a complaint have to be a call to action? > If not, I would again suggest finding an argument which will appeal to a non-trivial number of people. I don't think an argument, as such, will sway many people. If EME (or similar closed technologies) cause enough problems for enough people (for some definition of "enough"), that will change peoples' opinions. Things have to get really, really bad before most people will ask for change.
smallnamespace 10y ago
You already need to pay someone for a computer to view the web, and OS costs are bundled in as part of that. The OS market wouldn't be open anyway, because it naturally forms a monopoly/oligopoly.

by azakai 10y ago

acdha 10y ago

You seem to be ignoring the fact that Chrome for Linux exists but even if it didn't, it seems liked you're trying to argue that other people should be compelled to support your operating system of choice, not to mention conflating a small percentage of content with “the web". Was the OS market not open when Flash for Linux didn't exist? FreeBSD? TempleOS? What percentage of content needs to use EME before you “can't view the web”? If everything else but Netflix works, is the web open or closed? More to the point, what do you expect to accomplish here – is hyperbole going to convince people to use Linux, cancel their Netflix/Amazon/etc. subscription, etc? If not, I would again suggest finding an argument which will appeal to a non-trivial number of people. Why should they care enough to change their spending or contact their representatives?

khedoros 10y ago
> What percentage of content needs to use EME before you “can't view the web”? If everything else but Netflix works, is the web open or closed? If the EME are part of the HTML5 standard, but in practice they require some proprietary blob to operate, then the web isn't completely open. It doesn't mean that it's completely closed. Whether that matters depends, I suppose, on whether you want to take a pragmatic or ideological stance. > More to the point, what do you expect to accomplish here Does a complaint have to be a call to action? > If not, I would again suggest finding an argument which will appeal to a non-trivial number of people. I don't think an argument, as such, will sway many people. If EME (or similar closed technologies) cause enough problems for enough people (for some definition of "enough"), that will change peoples' opinions. Things have to get really, really bad before most people will ask for change.

smallnamespace 10y ago

You already need to pay someone for a computer to view the web, and OS costs are bundled in as part of that. The OS market wouldn't be open anyway, because it naturally forms a monopoly/oligopoly.