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Keep in mind that glaciers always melt. And cause landslides. And new ones form. Been happening for millions of years.

theothermkn 10y ago
> Keep in mind that glaciers always melt. And cause landslides. And new ones form. Been happening for millions of years. Keep this in mind, from the article: > Scientists say the slides will most likely continue as warming temperatures cause more glacial melt. Also, keep in mind that mussel shells were 27% thicker in 1970 than they are now, due to ocean acidification. Keep in mind we just came out of a streak of the 12 hottest months on record, and, lest we feel complacent, that's only because the 13th month was the second hottest on record. Keep in mind that we're about 4 years away from having no glaciers in Glacier National Park. In the completely neutral spirit of keeping things in mind, keep all those things in mind, too. As a matter of fact, I recommend to you, and to everyone here, go online and find climate-related things to keep in mind. Thank you for your concern.
- alexandrerond 10y ago
  Nothing we can't fix with an app...
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  "Keep in mind we just came out of a streak of the 12 hottest months on record" Keep in mind that "on record" covers less than an eyeblink, geologically speaking, and that we have evidence that the earth has been both much warmer and much colder than it is now. Not just millions of years ago, either. On the warm side, the Vikings had dairy farms in Greenland, some of which are only now emerging from the ice. That's only 1,000 years ago, and the temperatures were clearly warmer than they are now (not only are there no dairy farms in Greenland today, but quite obviously the farms were not frozen in the ice when they were in operation). http://naturalhistory.si.edu/vikings/voyage/subset/greenland/archeo.html http://naturalhistory.si.edu/vikings/voyage/subset/greenland... On the cold side, most of the American Midwest and central Canada was covered in several miles of ice as recently as 11,000 years ago.
dreamsofdragons 10y ago
Where are these new ones forming exactly?
- lostlogin 10y ago
  Mainly in the base of the freezers at work which don't seem to thrive on humidity.
- Turing_Machine 10y ago
  The glaciers have been receding for about the last 11,000 years. They'll be back. It's happened many times.
  - dreamsofdragons 10y ago
    Perhaps, perhaps not. With enough CO2 in the atmosphere, we could trigger an irreversible cascade. We'll essentially turn the planet into a second Venus. Your glib confidence is misplaced, as there isn't anyone who can say for certain how this will turn out.
    - Turing_Machine 10y ago
      "Your glib confidence is misplaced" Not any more than your Chicken Little "sky is falling" schtick. "Glib", indeed. Your "Venus" idea is absurd. The CO2 level in the Earth's atmosphere is currently around 400 ppm. It's been as high as 8,000 ppm in the geologic past without the Earth turning into Venus. Venus's atmosphere, by comparison, is 96.5% CO2. That's 965,000 ppm. It should be obvious that a) all of the CO2 in fossil fuels was in the atmosphere at one time (that's what "fossil fuel" means) and b) the Earth did not have Venus-like conditions when it was.
ceejayoz 10y ago
That's like comforting the family of a shooting victim with "don't forget! animals die, it happens all the time!"
- refurb 10y ago
  That's a terrible analogy.
  - ceejayoz 10y ago
    That's a terrible critique. Care to elaborate in a way that can be discussed productively?
- GarrisonPrime 10y ago
  Well, that's basically how religion comforts the family of someone who has died.

> Keep in mind that glaciers always melt. And cause landslides. And new ones form. Been happening for millions of years. Keep this in mind, from the article: > Scientists say the slides will most likely continue as warming temperatures cause more glacial melt. Also, keep in mind that mussel shells were 27% thicker in 1970 than they are now, due to ocean acidification. Keep in mind we just came out of a streak of the 12 hottest months on record, and, lest we feel complacent, that's only because the 13th month was the second hottest on record. Keep in mind that we're about 4 years away from having no glaciers in Glacier National Park. In the completely neutral spirit of keeping things in mind, keep all those things in mind, too. As a matter of fact, I recommend to you, and to everyone here, go online and find climate-related things to keep in mind. Thank you for your concern.

alexandrerond 10y ago
Nothing we can't fix with an app...
Turing_Machine 10y ago
"Keep in mind we just came out of a streak of the 12 hottest months on record" Keep in mind that "on record" covers less than an eyeblink, geologically speaking, and that we have evidence that the earth has been both much warmer and much colder than it is now. Not just millions of years ago, either. On the warm side, the Vikings had dairy farms in Greenland, some of which are only now emerging from the ice. That's only 1,000 years ago, and the temperatures were clearly warmer than they are now (not only are there no dairy farms in Greenland today, but quite obviously the farms were not frozen in the ice when they were in operation). http://naturalhistory.si.edu/vikings/voyage/subset/greenland/archeo.html http://naturalhistory.si.edu/vikings/voyage/subset/greenland... On the cold side, most of the American Midwest and central Canada was covered in several miles of ice as recently as 11,000 years ago.

dreamsofdragons 10y ago

Where are these new ones forming exactly?

lostlogin 10y ago
Mainly in the base of the freezers at work which don't seem to thrive on humidity.
Turing_Machine 10y ago
The glaciers have been receding for about the last 11,000 years. They'll be back. It's happened many times.
- dreamsofdragons 10y ago
  Perhaps, perhaps not. With enough CO2 in the atmosphere, we could trigger an irreversible cascade. We'll essentially turn the planet into a second Venus. Your glib confidence is misplaced, as there isn't anyone who can say for certain how this will turn out.
  - Turing_Machine 10y ago
    "Your glib confidence is misplaced" Not any more than your Chicken Little "sky is falling" schtick. "Glib", indeed. Your "Venus" idea is absurd. The CO2 level in the Earth's atmosphere is currently around 400 ppm. It's been as high as 8,000 ppm in the geologic past without the Earth turning into Venus. Venus's atmosphere, by comparison, is 96.5% CO2. That's 965,000 ppm. It should be obvious that a) all of the CO2 in fossil fuels was in the atmosphere at one time (that's what "fossil fuel" means) and b) the Earth did not have Venus-like conditions when it was.

ceejayoz 10y ago

That's like comforting the family of a shooting victim with "don't forget! animals die, it happens all the time!"

refurb 10y ago
That's a terrible analogy.
- ceejayoz 10y ago
  That's a terrible critique. Care to elaborate in a way that can be discussed productively?
GarrisonPrime 10y ago
Well, that's basically how religion comforts the family of someone who has died.