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And now UK is not even under EU's Fundamental Charter of Rights anymore, which declares privacy a human right. This is one of the reasons why Cameron secretly w

by mtgx 10y ago

And now UK is not even under EU's Fundamental Charter of Rights anymore, which declares privacy a human right. This is one of the reasons why Cameron secretly wanted UK out of the EU, or at least wanted to blackmail the EU into allowing UK to "opt-out" of the Fundamental Charter. UK is so screwed now, in more ways than one.

GarrisonPrime 10y ago
The UK has not left the EU, if that's what you're basing this on. All they've done is hold a public opinion poll on whether they should or not. Doesn't mean they will, and it certainly doesn't mean they have already.
daenney 10y ago
The human right to privacy enshrined in the Freedoms act of the "Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union" is not a blanket protection against any form of spying on you but it limits the intrusion you can be subjected to (amongst other things). There are many things that we could consider in breach of our privacy that are still allowed within the law. With all the gag ordering going around it's becoming increasingly hard to even know if you're a target. As also pointed out, just because the UK has had a referendum on leaving the EU and they voted in favour of leaving doesn't mean they've left the EU. In order to do so they need to trigger Article 50. So far none of the UK politicians have done so as they're too busy quitting, backstabbing and running around with their tails between their legs. No one wants to go down in history for this. Even if they had triggered article 50 it is estimated to take anywhere between a year and two for a nation to actually leave the EU (this has never been done before so no one really knows). During that time they are a "silent" member of the EU, bound by all its rules and legislation but with no vote or voice in the decision making progress. It should also be noted that Cameron did not campaign to leave. He promised the referendum as a way to avoid his party splitting in two and in order to get (re)elected as PM. As a consequence he's now split his country in more than two. One could argue that this is worse.
stordoff 10y ago
The Referendum was non-binding, thus there has been no change to the law as a result of it. It's also important to note that, IIRC, the Right to Privacy in the Charter of Fundamental Rights stems from Article 8 of the ECHR, thus still part of UK law via the Human Rights Act and has the same scope as specified in the ECHR. Though typically interpreted broadly, it is not a blanket right: > There shall be no interference by a public authority with [the right to privacy] except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

by mtgx 10y ago

GarrisonPrime 10y ago

The UK has not left the EU, if that's what you're basing this on. All they've done is hold a public opinion poll on whether they should or not. Doesn't mean they will, and it certainly doesn't mean they have already.

daenney 10y ago

The human right to privacy enshrined in the Freedoms act of the "Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union" is not a blanket protection against any form of spying on you but it limits the intrusion you can be subjected to (amongst other things). There are many things that we could consider in breach of our privacy that are still allowed within the law. With all the gag ordering going around it's becoming increasingly hard to even know if you're a target. As also pointed out, just because the UK has had a referendum on leaving the EU and they voted in favour of leaving doesn't mean they've left the EU. In order to do so they need to trigger Article 50. So far none of the UK politicians have done so as they're too busy quitting, backstabbing and running around with their tails between their legs. No one wants to go down in history for this. Even if they had triggered article 50 it is estimated to take anywhere between a year and two for a nation to actually leave the EU (this has never been done before so no one really knows). During that time they are a "silent" member of the EU, bound by all its rules and legislation but with no vote or voice in the decision making progress. It should also be noted that Cameron did not campaign to leave. He promised the referendum as a way to avoid his party splitting in two and in order to get (re)elected as PM. As a consequence he's now split his country in more than two. One could argue that this is worse.

stordoff 10y ago

The Referendum was non-binding, thus there has been no change to the law as a result of it. It's also important to note that, IIRC, the Right to Privacy in the Charter of Fundamental Rights stems from Article 8 of the ECHR, thus still part of UK law via the Human Rights Act and has the same scope as specified in the ECHR. Though typically interpreted broadly, it is not a blanket right: > There shall be no interference by a public authority with [the right to privacy] except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.