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I was at (unnamed-giant-online-retailer) and a team of 12 too. Our rule is to speak with one foot standing so you have to speak fast... It takes 90 seconds per

by qihqi 10y ago

I was at (unnamed-giant-online-retailer) and a team of 12 too. Our rule is to speak with one foot standing so you have to speak fast... It takes 90 seconds per person usually, sometimes ending with "hey Dave, I need your help in X, let's talk it afterwards". Same process run by different group will feel different.

Udik 10y ago
Oh really? And, tell me, do you agree to speak with your foot standing for 90 seconds? What about, I don't know, with someone pinching you or kicking your arse? Would that further reduce the time? Seriously - if I need to talk, I do, for as long as I think it's necessary. If I don't need to talk, and I don't need to hear other people's updates, this is just, how can I put it? Humiliating.
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turar 10y ago
What about jumping up and down while giving your update? That could literally become an Amazon version of "how high" meme.
Udik 10y ago
> sometimes ending with "hey Dave, I need your help in X, let's talk it afterwards" Which means, given a 8 hours working day, that you've been needing the help of Dave since the previous day, for an average of 4 hours, and you didn't ask him yet?
- zzalpha 10y ago
  Strawman. It's very possible the guy thought he could figure it out, but discovered he was wrong and mentioned it in the stand-up because it was the first opportunity that day to bring it up (remember, in a lot of places stand-up happens fairly early in the morning in order to give coders the largest block of contiguous time for development).
  - Udik 10y ago
    > but discovered he was wrong and mentioned it in the stand-up because it was the first opportunity that day Exactly. Which means that he's saying that at the standup not because of any special advantage given by it, but just because it's the very first appointment of the day. Had there been no standup, he would have asked for help anyway. So either: 1) the standup covers up a fundamental malfunctioning of the team, namely that people can't communicate freely during the day, or 2) useful stuff that people say at the standup is stuff they would have said anyway at that time of the day.

by qihqi 10y ago

Udik 10y ago

Oh really? And, tell me, do you agree to speak with your foot standing for 90 seconds? What about, I don't know, with someone pinching you or kicking your arse? Would that further reduce the time? Seriously - if I need to talk, I do, for as long as I think it's necessary. If I don't need to talk, and I don't need to hear other people's updates, this is just, how can I put it? Humiliating.

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turar 10y ago

What about jumping up and down while giving your update? That could literally become an Amazon version of "how high" meme.

Udik 10y ago

> sometimes ending with "hey Dave, I need your help in X, let's talk it afterwards" Which means, given a 8 hours working day, that you've been needing the help of Dave since the previous day, for an average of 4 hours, and you didn't ask him yet?

zzalpha 10y ago
Strawman. It's very possible the guy thought he could figure it out, but discovered he was wrong and mentioned it in the stand-up because it was the first opportunity that day to bring it up (remember, in a lot of places stand-up happens fairly early in the morning in order to give coders the largest block of contiguous time for development).
- Udik 10y ago
  > but discovered he was wrong and mentioned it in the stand-up because it was the first opportunity that day Exactly. Which means that he's saying that at the standup not because of any special advantage given by it, but just because it's the very first appointment of the day. Had there been no standup, he would have asked for help anyway. So either: 1) the standup covers up a fundamental malfunctioning of the team, namely that people can't communicate freely during the day, or 2) useful stuff that people say at the standup is stuff they would have said anyway at that time of the day.