The problem I've seen is rather than forcing the business and tech to understand and work with each other managers are hired to do 'agile' and basically proxy f

The problem I've seen is rather than forcing the business and tech to understand and work with each other managers are hired to do 'agile' and basically proxy for the business. They don't know anything more than developers do, and while there is more iterative development, the feedback is coming from the wrong people. It just becomes useless meetings and checkboxes.