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Believe what you want. Even if everything you say is true, which I seriously doubt, it doesn't change the fact that victimhood politics is the road to continued

Believe what you want. Even if everything you say is true, which I seriously doubt, it doesn't change the fact that victimhood politics is the road to continued ruin.

ZeroGravitas 10y ago
Unfortunately it is true: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/ http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-r... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105832640 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1058326... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy Why shouldn't a victim acknowledge the reality of being targeted? What other groups do you expect to follow this bizarre recommendation? Thus is a nice historical overview that ties a lot of this stuff together: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/is-america-repeating-the-mistakes-of-1968/490568/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/is-ameri...
- marcoperaza 10y ago
  I don't buy that America is a substantially racist country today. I especially don't buy that racism is even in the top-ten list of problems facing black people. History sucks. It landed my grandparents in America, having fled Cuba, with the clothes on their backs. They had built lives for themselves and had it all pulled from under them. Somehow, the Cuban-American community has done phenomenally well for itself. Definitely not by blaming the past for their lot and demanding nebulous reparations.
  - ZeroGravitas 10y ago
    "In order to provide aid to recently arrived Cuban immigrants, the United States Congress passed the Cuban Adjustment Act in 1966. The Cuban Refugee Program provided more than $1.3 billion of direct financial assistance. They also were eligible for public assistance, Medicare, free English courses, scholarships, and low-interest college loans." says wikipedia. Seems like they were lucky to be on the right side of a political battle to me.
    - marcoperaza 10y ago
      You realize that's all dwarfed by the welfare state that we now have for everyone, right? It's also not the root of the Cuban-American community's success. The earliest waves of migrants were almost all from the middle and upper class. They did correspondingly well in their new home. Wealth is not really a number in your bank account, it's the knowledge and virtues that guide of the process of producing value. If you took everyone in America's money away and started over, the resulting classes would look a lot like today's. Culture is almost everything.

Believe what you want. Even if everything you say is true, which I seriously doubt, it doesn't change the fact that victimhood politics is the road to continued ruin.

ZeroGravitas 10y ago

Unfortunately it is true: http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/ http://edition.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-r... http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=105832640 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1058326... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy Why shouldn't a victim acknowledge the reality of being targeted? What other groups do you expect to follow this bizarre recommendation? Thus is a nice historical overview that ties a lot of this stuff together: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/is-america-repeating-the-mistakes-of-1968/490568/ http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/is-ameri...

marcoperaza 10y ago
I don't buy that America is a substantially racist country today. I especially don't buy that racism is even in the top-ten list of problems facing black people. History sucks. It landed my grandparents in America, having fled Cuba, with the clothes on their backs. They had built lives for themselves and had it all pulled from under them. Somehow, the Cuban-American community has done phenomenally well for itself. Definitely not by blaming the past for their lot and demanding nebulous reparations.
- ZeroGravitas 10y ago
  "In order to provide aid to recently arrived Cuban immigrants, the United States Congress passed the Cuban Adjustment Act in 1966. The Cuban Refugee Program provided more than $1.3 billion of direct financial assistance. They also were eligible for public assistance, Medicare, free English courses, scholarships, and low-interest college loans." says wikipedia. Seems like they were lucky to be on the right side of a political battle to me.
  - marcoperaza 10y ago
    You realize that's all dwarfed by the welfare state that we now have for everyone, right? It's also not the root of the Cuban-American community's success. The earliest waves of migrants were almost all from the middle and upper class. They did correspondingly well in their new home. Wealth is not really a number in your bank account, it's the knowledge and virtues that guide of the process of producing value. If you took everyone in America's money away and started over, the resulting classes would look a lot like today's. Culture is almost everything.