This. Also, despite the general hatred of Oracle, something else that is hard to admit is they've managed Java a lot better than Sun has done. The people buildi

This. Also, despite the general hatred of Oracle, something else that is hard to admit is they've managed Java a lot better than Sun has done. The people building Java now are long-term team members who clearly weren't recognised and elevated by Sun, but who have been by Oracle. Love 'em or hate 'em, Oracle didn't turn into a factory farm of cash cows by being entirely incompetent.