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Yeah, but when you show me a video of a man getting shot by the police and you want me to show some sympathy, he better not be obviously resisting arrest. It's

Yeah, but when you show me a video of a man getting shot by the police and you want me to show some sympathy, he better not be obviously resisting arrest. It's the "clean hands" principle. I feel bad, but I feel bad that nobody's there teaching these guys how to deal with cops in a civil manner that keeps you alive. Instead, we're just stirring the pot.

bduerst 10y ago
> nobody's there teaching these guys how to deal with cops in a civil manner that keeps you alive Blaming the victim? Really? That's what the protest in Dallas was about. That Philando Castile, an African american, was politely complying with police and was still shot and killed in his car with his fiance and her daughter.
- micahbright 10y ago
  It's interesting that you get to choose which victim I'm blaming. I didn't get to see the part of the video where Philando Castile got shot for doing nothing, so I can't really say that he was doing nothing. As silly as that last sentence sounds, it is you who is calling me the victim blamer in the absence of facts, strangely, while we are talking about bias.
  - bduerst 10y ago
    If you re-read the comment, you'll see that I didn't choose anyone, and only referred to current issues. You know, these "facts" that you're eluding to that are absent from the conversation. What is interesting is that you're choosing to deflect by accusing me of not knowing the "facts", even after you admitted to not knowing them (which qualifies as psychological projection). Perhaps you'd like to share these "facts" that justify your racially-based victim blaming instead?
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    - micahbright 10y ago
      If you re-read the comment, I wasn't talking about Castile: "he better not be obviously resisting arrest" - Alton Sterling. So, you can call me a victim blamer, erroneously. You can say it's racially based, erroneously. But you're the one with reading comprehension issues, Bud. You might also want to note, that I'm clearly not blaming the victim. You yourself quoted it, "nobody's there teaching these guys how to deal with cops in a civil manner that keeps you alive". I'm not saying that Castile was to blame. I'm saying society needs to teach people to not do IDIOTIC things in front of police. And since this happens to people of all races, you saying it's racially based is completely baseless.
      - bduerst 10y ago
        Sure, sure - just link which comment you were specifically referring to Alton Sterling and I'll re-read that. Otherwise you're psychologically projecting "reading comprehension issues" again, Micah. You seem to be confused about what blaming the victim is, or you're intentionally trying to redefine it as "no, I was blaming society". It's interesting, because you're still trying to grasp the assertion that it's the behavior of the victim at fault for the the cops killing them.

bduerst 10y ago

> nobody's there teaching these guys how to deal with cops in a civil manner that keeps you alive Blaming the victim? Really? That's what the protest in Dallas was about. That Philando Castile, an African american, was politely complying with police and was still shot and killed in his car with his fiance and her daughter.

micahbright 10y ago
It's interesting that you get to choose which victim I'm blaming. I didn't get to see the part of the video where Philando Castile got shot for doing nothing, so I can't really say that he was doing nothing. As silly as that last sentence sounds, it is you who is calling me the victim blamer in the absence of facts, strangely, while we are talking about bias.
- bduerst 10y ago
  If you re-read the comment, you'll see that I didn't choose anyone, and only referred to current issues. You know, these "facts" that you're eluding to that are absent from the conversation. What is interesting is that you're choosing to deflect by accusing me of not knowing the "facts", even after you admitted to not knowing them (which qualifies as psychological projection). Perhaps you'd like to share these "facts" that justify your racially-based victim blaming instead?
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  - micahbright 10y ago
    If you re-read the comment, I wasn't talking about Castile: "he better not be obviously resisting arrest" - Alton Sterling. So, you can call me a victim blamer, erroneously. You can say it's racially based, erroneously. But you're the one with reading comprehension issues, Bud. You might also want to note, that I'm clearly not blaming the victim. You yourself quoted it, "nobody's there teaching these guys how to deal with cops in a civil manner that keeps you alive". I'm not saying that Castile was to blame. I'm saying society needs to teach people to not do IDIOTIC things in front of police. And since this happens to people of all races, you saying it's racially based is completely baseless.
    - bduerst 10y ago
      Sure, sure - just link which comment you were specifically referring to Alton Sterling and I'll re-read that. Otherwise you're psychologically projecting "reading comprehension issues" again, Micah. You seem to be confused about what blaming the victim is, or you're intentionally trying to redefine it as "no, I was blaming society". It's interesting, because you're still trying to grasp the assertion that it's the behavior of the victim at fault for the the cops killing them.