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> IIRC, blacks are 13% of the population yet 30% of the police killings. Yes, and blacks are 13% of the population but 38% of the murderers (to use your & the
by wtbob 10y ago
> IIRC, blacks are 13% of the population yet 30% of the police killings.
Yes, and blacks are 13% of the population but 38% of the murderers (to use your & the OP's numbers). The point is that in two random encounters with two random people (one black, one white), the black person is more likely to be a murderer than the white person. That's not racist: it's just a fact.
As an example, I'll use the 2013 FBI crime statistics (https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43 https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/...) and 2015 U.S. Census data (https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/ https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/) — yes, there will be some inaccuracy due to using different years' data, but the 2015 crime data isn't yet available by race that I could find. In 2015, 77.1% of the U.S. population — 247,813,910 people — were white; 3,799 whites were arrested for murder in 2013, for an arrested-murderer rate of 1:65,200. In 2015, 13.3% of the U.S. population — 42,748,703 people — were black; 4,379 blacks were arrested for murder in 2013, for an arrested-murderer rate of 1:9,760.
Assuming the correctness of those numbers, and assuming that black and whites are fairly arrested for murder, any random black person one encounters is 6.68 times as likely to be a murderer as a white person.
Now, there are no doubt some very powerful arguments that blacks and whites are not equally treated when it comes to murder arrests, but even if only half of all blacks arrested for murder are guilty and as many white murderers are never arrested for murder as are, the multiplier would still be 1.67, and honestly those assumptions are a stretch.
Given the previous assumption of fairness, police killing blacks 3.49 times as often as whites would indicate that they are actually almost twice as cautious of killing blacks (or twice as quick to kill whites) as the actual random-encounter risk would predict: 6.68/3.49 = 1.91.
- specialist 10y agoSo police killing a higher proportion of unarmed blacks vs unarmed whites is okay because, um, reasons.
- wtbob 10y ago> So police killing a higher proportion of unarmed blacks vs unarmed whites is okay because, um, reasons. The evidence which appears to indicate that blacks are more likely to be dangerous is a pretty reasonable reason for law enforcement to be more alert when dealing with blacks. The fact that the proportion of blacks killed is less than the proportion of dangerous blacks seems to indicate that law enforcement is actually showing restraint.