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Data, even if only qualitative, about the psychological experience of technology workers seeking employment is very interesting to me. It may have fewer direct
by p4wnc6 10y ago
Data, even if only qualitative, about the psychological experience of technology workers seeking employment is very interesting to me. It may have fewer direct applications to policy adjustments, but provides insight into the overall mood and sentiment around tech hiring and employment.
The psychological and sociological aspects of tech employment are not discussed as much as they should be and it is a disservice. Again, I love data-driven policy as much as the next Bayesian, but positive description is not the only thing that has value. Sometimes normative description also has value, even if it emerges from a sparse set of qualitative descriptions.
I personally would like to see much more anecdotal data about how people feel about tech employment, because I think at this moment in history the interface between organizations and employees represents one of the most significant moral problems on the planet, that has wide-ranging effects stretching from income inequality to PTSD or depression to stagnation of innovations that could alleviate poverty or diseases, etc. In the same way that some claim that governmental regulations stymie tech progress, I feel it's perfectly analogous and perhaps even more critical to point out that organizational bureaucracy in the form of anti-human treatment of workers, candidates, and the unemployed, is just as much of an impediment to collective progress, but is much less talked about because it's fashionable to hate on government but taboo to hate on ethical failures of companies in their treatment of workers, candidates, or the unemployed.
- jknoepfler 10y agoI don't disagree with you that "how it feels" is an important aspect of our lives. It is not, however, an important aspect of answering the question "is tech hiring down 40%". If someone says "pneumonia diagnoses are down 40%" and someone replies "I disagree, it doesn't feel like doctors are diagnosing less pneumonia to me," nothing of substance has been added to the conversation. That said, I also think that I interpreted the purpose for posting the article too narrowly. Edit: to be clear, I don't intend to diminish the concerns you listed. The argument "A is irrelevant to B" is not the same as "not A" or "A is irrelevant"
- p4wnc6 10y agoI agree with you. I think I am saying that I don't mind if discussions about "is tech hiring down 40%" also include discussions about "tech hiring sure feels like it's down because here's my experience ...". They are "relevant" in the sense that it provides a logical repository for information about how the job market feels, both factually and emotionally. I don't see much benefit in asserting such a need to keep the topics separate that even a comment thread on Hacker News cannot mix the two kinds of assessments together.
- jknoepfler 10y agoI agree with you, apologies if I was talking past you instead of with you.