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No, my point is that you can both stop poaching and preserve antiques, but not with a blind, total ban on trade.
by zbjornson 10y ago
No, my point is that you can both stop poaching and preserve antiques, but not with a blind, total ban on trade.
- phowat 10y agoFrom the article: "However, experts believe that there is currently no way to prevent poached ivory from entering legal chains and then finding a way on to the world market." So no, it seems that you can't do both.
- adamnemecek 10y agoHow? Where would this ivory come from? Why is it important for the pianos to have ivory inlays?
- zbjornson 10y agoLast line of my first comment: a few people around the world recover ivory from other products for use in restoration. The restoration issue aside, banning resale of a 100+ year old instrument because it contains ivory doesn't help the elephants today.
- adamnemecek 10y ago> a few people around the world recover ivory from other products for use in restoration How do you know where they source their ivory from? > The restoration issue aside, banning resale of a 100+ year old instrument because it contains ivory doesn't help the elephants today. Of course it does. It adds stigma to using ivory.
- sliverstorm 10y agoNo, I think it adds romance & mystique. Banning something doesn't make it gross, it makes it more desirable because you can't get it.
- adamnemecek 10y agoCan you give an example?
- sliverstorm 10y agoBanned books. The Streisand effect. Prohibition (alcohol consumption went down after the 21st Amendment). Private collections of stolen/conflict artwork (we know they exist mostly because of estate sales). Exotic pets, esp. illegal exotic pets (see Zanesville, Ohio). Adam & Eve.
- adamnemecek 10y agocertain not buying that the main motivation for people buying all those listed things is that it's illegal.
- zbjornson 10y agoI'm not sure what good that stigma does (or if it even makes having ivory more alluring). No new instruments use ivory, thankfully, and no one buys a gigantic organ because it has ivory inlays or a violin bow because it has tiny ivory frogs.