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They talk about comparing probability of {black, unarmed, and shot by police} vs {white, unarmed, and shot by police}. Is this not meaningless without adjustin

They talk about comparing probability of {black, unarmed, and shot by police} vs {white, unarmed, and shot by police}. Is this not meaningless without adjusting for relative frequency of black vs white in the community? Shouldn't we be comparing P(shot by police|white & unarmed) vs P(shot by police|black & unarmed)? Am I missing something from their methodology?

DiabloD3 10y ago
Unarmed doesn't even really help here. Cops in certain areas have serious problems with ham sandwiching suspects.
- iamdave 10y ago
  ham sandwiching This idiom is new to me, care to elaborate? I've definitely had my fair share of "why was I even approached in the first place" with police officers, in Austin Texas-the part of Texas everyone and their mother swears is liberal, progressive and not at all like the rest of Texas. If that's what you mean. It probably didn't help that I was walking down the street from the gas station at 1 in the morning in an area that was established as "Exclusively for white people" (http://kxan.com/2015/08/20/exclusively-for-white-people-a-history-of-segregation-in-austin-neighborhoods/ http://kxan.com/2015/08/20/exclusively-for-white-people-a-hi...) as a black man-a neighborhood that still to this day is almost entirely white....still watching a cop pass me going down the road, whip a u-turn, come back and stop me just to ask "Where are you going?" Or the time an officer stopped me on my way to a UT football game and before even asking to see my license or registration asked who I stole my Honda Civic from. Armed only with tickets and a case of beer for tailgating.
  - codemogul 10y ago
    A "ham sandwich" is evidence, often a handgun, placed at a crime scene by law enforcement. See: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/blog/2011/07/former-detective-describes-cover-up-ham-sandwich.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/blog/20...
    - iamdave 10y ago
      Ahhh so a plant. Got it. Thanks for that!

DiabloD3 10y ago

Unarmed doesn't even really help here. Cops in certain areas have serious problems with ham sandwiching suspects.

iamdave 10y ago
ham sandwiching This idiom is new to me, care to elaborate? I've definitely had my fair share of "why was I even approached in the first place" with police officers, in Austin Texas-the part of Texas everyone and their mother swears is liberal, progressive and not at all like the rest of Texas. If that's what you mean. It probably didn't help that I was walking down the street from the gas station at 1 in the morning in an area that was established as "Exclusively for white people" (http://kxan.com/2015/08/20/exclusively-for-white-people-a-history-of-segregation-in-austin-neighborhoods/ http://kxan.com/2015/08/20/exclusively-for-white-people-a-hi...) as a black man-a neighborhood that still to this day is almost entirely white....still watching a cop pass me going down the road, whip a u-turn, come back and stop me just to ask "Where are you going?" Or the time an officer stopped me on my way to a UT football game and before even asking to see my license or registration asked who I stole my Honda Civic from. Armed only with tickets and a case of beer for tailgating.
- codemogul 10y ago
  A "ham sandwich" is evidence, often a handgun, placed at a crime scene by law enforcement. See: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/blog/2011/07/former-detective-describes-cover-up-ham-sandwich.html http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/blog/20...
  - iamdave 10y ago
    Ahhh so a plant. Got it. Thanks for that!