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Moxie and team, bravo. You've made the snoopers jobs a whole lot harder. Your goal of making encryption easy to use by the masses is coming come true. It looks

Moxie and team, bravo. You've made the snoopers jobs a whole lot harder. Your goal of making encryption easy to use by the masses is coming come true. It looks as if PGP's days are numbered.

StavrosK 10y ago
> It looks as if PGP's days are numbered. This seems gratuitously hostile (and, even worse, is irrelevant). PGP is a very useful piece of software, and it does something completely different from Signal, and I'm glad both exist.
- justratsinacoat 10y ago
  >> It looks as if PGP's days are numbered Comments like this are inevitable and represent Facebook's attempts to induce us to route all of our communications though its platform. For the quoted commenter, it's probably too late.
  - _yp 10y ago
    PGP has failed to provide "encryption for the masses".
    - cyphar 10y ago
      PGP fills a niche that OTR and Axolotl do not. It provides a bunch of operations that are not supported by OTR (anything that requires signatures that are verifiable by third parties). PGP is used by the masses (package signatures and similar functions), it's just that they don't use PGP for communication.
- eyeareque 10y ago
  PGP while a decent technology is very cumbersome. Worse, it's easy to shoot yourself in the foot if you aren't an advanced level user. I've used it for years on a regular basis with various implementations. It's just never been user friendly or easy to use. If it was more user friendly it might have had better adoption rates. As moxie has pointed out, we need something better for the masses, it looks like we are finally seeing progress towards that goal now.
sweis 10y ago
Facebook supports PGP too, by the way: https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/securing-email-communications-from-facebook/1611941762379302/ https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/securing-em... And runs as a Tor hidden service at https://facebookcorewwwi.onion/ https://facebookcorewwwi.onion/: https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/making-connections-to-facebook-more-secure/1526085754298237/ https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/making-conn...

Moxie and team, bravo. You've made the snoopers jobs a whole lot harder. Your goal of making encryption easy to use by the masses is coming come true. It looks as if PGP's days are numbered.

StavrosK 10y ago

> It looks as if PGP's days are numbered. This seems gratuitously hostile (and, even worse, is irrelevant). PGP is a very useful piece of software, and it does something completely different from Signal, and I'm glad both exist.

justratsinacoat 10y ago
>> It looks as if PGP's days are numbered Comments like this are inevitable and represent Facebook's attempts to induce us to route all of our communications though its platform. For the quoted commenter, it's probably too late.
- _yp 10y ago
  PGP has failed to provide "encryption for the masses".
  - cyphar 10y ago
    PGP fills a niche that OTR and Axolotl do not. It provides a bunch of operations that are not supported by OTR (anything that requires signatures that are verifiable by third parties). PGP is used by the masses (package signatures and similar functions), it's just that they don't use PGP for communication.
eyeareque 10y ago
PGP while a decent technology is very cumbersome. Worse, it's easy to shoot yourself in the foot if you aren't an advanced level user. I've used it for years on a regular basis with various implementations. It's just never been user friendly or easy to use. If it was more user friendly it might have had better adoption rates. As moxie has pointed out, we need something better for the masses, it looks like we are finally seeing progress towards that goal now.

sweis 10y ago

Facebook supports PGP too, by the way: https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/securing-email-communications-from-facebook/1611941762379302/ https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/securing-em... And runs as a Tor hidden service at https://facebookcorewwwi.onion/ https://facebookcorewwwi.onion/: https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/making-connections-to-facebook-more-secure/1526085754298237/ https://www.facebook.com/notes/protect-the-graph/making-conn...