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Note that "snipers" doesn't mean people with a sniper rifle like in the movies. Apparently one of the shooters walked around with an assault rifle, but nobody s

by Kristine1975 10y ago

Note that "snipers" doesn't mean people with a sniper rifle like in the movies. Apparently one of the shooters walked around with an assault rifle, but nobody said/did/could do anything because Texas is an open carry state.

DanBC 10y ago
I know police made an early mistake. Police initially suspected someone who was walking around with a rifle, but he turned himself in and was later released. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-36743033 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-36743033 Was one of the killers walking around with a rifle?
jacquesm 10y ago
"Four Dallas Police officers and one Dallas Area Rapid Transit officer were killed by “snipers” perched atop “elevated positions,” officials said."
Chris2048 10y ago
You can carry around assault weapons?
- JoeAltmaier 10y ago
  Yeah its the "bear arms" part.
- douche 10y ago
  Yes, because "assault weapons" is a made up term that includes large numbers of perfectly legal semi-automatic firearms. The same rifle can have two different configurations, depending on cosmetic variations which do not affect its underlying capabilities, one of which is "scary" looking enough to trigger the "assault weapon" label, while the other appears to be an innocuous hunting or target-shooting rifle.
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    Well, US law has a legal definition, but I think people used the term before congress decided to make that up. In this case, was it a large weapon? Did the "snipers" carry around their guns openly?
    - pc86 10y ago
      If by "US law" you mean "federal law," no it does not. It has a legal definition in some US states but they all differ[0] and in every case rely in part of cosmetic features of the weapon. And I'm not sure what the physical size of a weapon has to do with anything. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#Differing_state_law_definitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#Differing_state...
HelloNurse 10y ago
Couldn't the police admit only unarmed people to the Dallas event, and have a word with anyone who looked like a sniper in an elevated position?
- smileysteve 10y ago
  If state law in Texas is like Georgia, then it's much harder to stifle the 2nd amendment in a public space at a public event. If it were a registered protest, maybe, or if the organizers of a private event asked people not to carry. A lot of the argument for the 2nd amendment is that if you put people open carrying, the gov/police will show more restraint, allowing for 1st amendment practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSwys0dm_EA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSwys0dm_EA
smileysteve 10y ago
> Apparently one of the shooters walked around with an assault rifle This man was accused as a suspect on twitter, but he turned his weapon into police and went into them lying to him saying they had evidence and witnesses. While, on social media, we had clear video of him walking the protest and hitting the deck when shots broke out. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article88419222.html http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/articl...

DanBC 10y ago

I know police made an early mistake. Police initially suspected someone who was walking around with a rifle, but he turned himself in and was later released. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-36743033 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-36743033 Was one of the killers walking around with a rifle?

jacquesm 10y ago

"Four Dallas Police officers and one Dallas Area Rapid Transit officer were killed by “snipers” perched atop “elevated positions,” officials said."

Chris2048 10y ago

You can carry around assault weapons?

JoeAltmaier 10y ago
Yeah its the "bear arms" part.
douche 10y ago
Yes, because "assault weapons" is a made up term that includes large numbers of perfectly legal semi-automatic firearms. The same rifle can have two different configurations, depending on cosmetic variations which do not affect its underlying capabilities, one of which is "scary" looking enough to trigger the "assault weapon" label, while the other appears to be an innocuous hunting or target-shooting rifle.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  Well, US law has a legal definition, but I think people used the term before congress decided to make that up. In this case, was it a large weapon? Did the "snipers" carry around their guns openly?
  - pc86 10y ago
    If by "US law" you mean "federal law," no it does not. It has a legal definition in some US states but they all differ[0] and in every case rely in part of cosmetic features of the weapon. And I'm not sure what the physical size of a weapon has to do with anything. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#Differing_state_law_definitions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon#Differing_state...

HelloNurse 10y ago

Couldn't the police admit only unarmed people to the Dallas event, and have a word with anyone who looked like a sniper in an elevated position?

smileysteve 10y ago
If state law in Texas is like Georgia, then it's much harder to stifle the 2nd amendment in a public space at a public event. If it were a registered protest, maybe, or if the organizers of a private event asked people not to carry. A lot of the argument for the 2nd amendment is that if you put people open carrying, the gov/police will show more restraint, allowing for 1st amendment practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSwys0dm_EA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSwys0dm_EA

smileysteve 10y ago

> Apparently one of the shooters walked around with an assault rifle This man was accused as a suspect on twitter, but he turned his weapon into police and went into them lying to him saying they had evidence and witnesses. While, on social media, we had clear video of him walking the protest and hitting the deck when shots broke out. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article88419222.html http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/articl...