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Justifiable or not, 604 homicides by police so far this year is far is rediculous. If my understanding is correct, the vast majority of violent policing is ass

by dade_ 10y ago

Justifiable or not, 604 homicides by police so far this year is far is rediculous. If my understanding is correct, the vast majority of violent policing is associated to a relatively small percentage of officers. Opening up police data is urgent, is there an effort making any headway? http://killedbypolice.net/ http://killedbypolice.net/

omegaham 10y ago
> the vast majority of violent policing is associated to a relatively small percentage of officers Isn't the vast majority of crime associated with small areas? People rag on Chicago for having lots of murders, but if you look at http://www.heyjackass.com http://www.heyjackass.com, you end up finding that most of the shootings occur in only a few neighborhoods. Similarly, most police officers are not patrolling in a war zone. Where I would love to see the data is a comparison of officers with their peers. If you're an officer with Chicago's Finest, you probably have a group of peers who patrol the same neighborhoods as you. If you're grabbing your gun five times as often as the other guys on your squad, it's difficult to make the argument that random shit is only happening to you.
Fuxy 10y ago
I'm waiting for when it will be a requirement to wear a bullet proof vest if you're a regular citizens that happens to be black and you are driving anywhere. Us policies and laws are getting more and more ridiculous every year and enforcement non existent if you're the police so would anybody be surprised if the victim gets blamed for getting shot?
- pmorici 10y ago
  There are laws against buying and owning body armor in some areas of the US.
  - pc86 10y ago
    Federal law prohibits anyone convicted of a violent crime from owning or possessing any type of body armor. Most states explicitly prohibit felons from owning or possessing as well, and many states prohibit it outright for anyone, but I can't seem to find solid stats on which states outlaw it under which circumstances.

by dade_ 10y ago

omegaham 10y ago

> the vast majority of violent policing is associated to a relatively small percentage of officers Isn't the vast majority of crime associated with small areas? People rag on Chicago for having lots of murders, but if you look at http://www.heyjackass.com http://www.heyjackass.com, you end up finding that most of the shootings occur in only a few neighborhoods. Similarly, most police officers are not patrolling in a war zone. Where I would love to see the data is a comparison of officers with their peers. If you're an officer with Chicago's Finest, you probably have a group of peers who patrol the same neighborhoods as you. If you're grabbing your gun five times as often as the other guys on your squad, it's difficult to make the argument that random shit is only happening to you.

Fuxy 10y ago

I'm waiting for when it will be a requirement to wear a bullet proof vest if you're a regular citizens that happens to be black and you are driving anywhere. Us policies and laws are getting more and more ridiculous every year and enforcement non existent if you're the police so would anybody be surprised if the victim gets blamed for getting shot?

pmorici 10y ago
There are laws against buying and owning body armor in some areas of the US.
- pc86 10y ago
  Federal law prohibits anyone convicted of a violent crime from owning or possessing any type of body armor. Most states explicitly prohibit felons from owning or possessing as well, and many states prohibit it outright for anyone, but I can't seem to find solid stats on which states outlaw it under which circumstances.