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I think the "other website" is HN.

by finnh 10y ago

0x0 10y ago
But HN has separate downvote and flag buttons for comments?
- Someone1234 10y ago
  True, but HN like Reddit "double dips" on the meaning of the downvote arrow. If this comment got downvoted too much it would be marked [Dead] and disappear, and if that happened a lot my entire account would be shadowbanned.
  - kbenson 10y ago
    Interestingly, I was under the impression that on HN down voting was supposed to be for when comments are (provably) erroneous, disrespectful, harmful or just plain don't really contribute constructively, but not when I disagree about something that isn't definitive. Looking at the guidelines, they actually say little about what down votes are supposed to be used for. I wonder how I got that impression? Was it learned through the culture here, or is it wishful thinking on my part, or a bit of both? In any case, I'm much more hesitant to down vote here just because I disagree with an opinion than on Reddit, and I think a lot of people do the same. To me, that higher standard for what's both considered a good comment and what's acceptable are what makes HN more useful for interesting discussion. There are probably 5-8 aspects of comments that could be voted on, but what we see with these singular rating systems is that the community forms around what is acceptable and what is not, and people generally fall in line with the community norms (both in submissions and in their own rating of others). Reddit is interesting in that I've noticed that this community norm is somewhat malleable based on the subreddit. /r/gifs and /r/programming have a distinctly different feel in the comments.
  - SamReidHughes 10y ago
    > If this comment got downvoted too much it would be marked [Dead] and disappear, and if that happened a lot my entire account would be shadowbanned. I don't think any of this sentence is true. Getting [dead]ed was an experiment a long time ago which afaict ended quickly. And bans for non-spam-related reasons are obviously quite public.
    - marak830 10y ago
      I believe I read something from dang a few weeks ago saying this. I'm on my phone though sorry and can't find it .
      - SamReidHughes 10y ago
        This, I presume: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12004060 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12004060
        marak830 10y ago
        That's it, thanks.

I think the "other website" is HN.

by finnh 10y ago

I think the "other website" is HN.

0x0 10y ago

But HN has separate downvote and flag buttons for comments?

Someone1234 10y ago
True, but HN like Reddit "double dips" on the meaning of the downvote arrow. If this comment got downvoted too much it would be marked [Dead] and disappear, and if that happened a lot my entire account would be shadowbanned.
- kbenson 10y ago
  Interestingly, I was under the impression that on HN down voting was supposed to be for when comments are (provably) erroneous, disrespectful, harmful or just plain don't really contribute constructively, but not when I disagree about something that isn't definitive. Looking at the guidelines, they actually say little about what down votes are supposed to be used for. I wonder how I got that impression? Was it learned through the culture here, or is it wishful thinking on my part, or a bit of both? In any case, I'm much more hesitant to down vote here just because I disagree with an opinion than on Reddit, and I think a lot of people do the same. To me, that higher standard for what's both considered a good comment and what's acceptable are what makes HN more useful for interesting discussion. There are probably 5-8 aspects of comments that could be voted on, but what we see with these singular rating systems is that the community forms around what is acceptable and what is not, and people generally fall in line with the community norms (both in submissions and in their own rating of others). Reddit is interesting in that I've noticed that this community norm is somewhat malleable based on the subreddit. /r/gifs and /r/programming have a distinctly different feel in the comments.
- SamReidHughes 10y ago
  > If this comment got downvoted too much it would be marked [Dead] and disappear, and if that happened a lot my entire account would be shadowbanned. I don't think any of this sentence is true. Getting [dead]ed was an experiment a long time ago which afaict ended quickly. And bans for non-spam-related reasons are obviously quite public.
  - marak830 10y ago
    I believe I read something from dang a few weeks ago saying this. I'm on my phone though sorry and can't find it .
    - SamReidHughes 10y ago
      This, I presume: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12004060 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12004060
      - marak830 10y ago
        That's it, thanks.