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> Wow, I'm really surprised that I've never heard of this before Kara Swisher doesn't seem to provide any indication of where the information she's reporting c

> Wow, I'm really surprised that I've never heard of this before Kara Swisher doesn't seem to provide any indication of where the information she's reporting came from. Furthermore, the link she provides at the end (as a well-done "warts-and-all" account of the deal) claims that Mozilla stands to lose money if a deal goes through... https://techpinions.com/is-firefox-search-worth-375myear-to-a-yahoo-buyer/45144 https://techpinions.com/is-firefox-search-worth-375myear-to-...

rockdoe 10y ago
Kara Swisher doesn't seem to provide any indication of where the information she's reporting came from She claims to have seen the contract in the first line of the article.
yuhong 10y ago
I noticed that the submitter is dblohm7.
hyperpape 10y ago
As I read it, that analysis (about Mozilla losing money from a Yahoo sale) doesn't factor in the $1 billion payment Mozilla would be owed if they walk away, and is based on the assumption that Mozilla won't be able to make another search deal to replace its revenue with Yahoo. It's probably true that they can't replace 100% of it, but if they partially replace it, and then make up for the shortfall with that billion, that probably takes care of them for many years.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  Another possible scenario: Mozilla pockets $1B, several months later Yahoo goes bust and then they're free to do whatever they want because Yahoo can't perform any more.
  - rockdoe 10y ago
    The question is, if there's no healthy competition in the search space, isn't Mozilla (and the web) ultimately still f----ed?
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      Long term quite probably yes, but if they manage that money wisely and concentrate on their core product rather than on all kinds of funky (and costly) stuff it could last for a long time.
    - pekk 10y ago
      Yahoo isn't offering healthy competition anyway, really.
  - geobmx540 10y ago
    "pockets $1B", I think that's it's still over several years, I suspect if they go "bust" they won't have that 1B
    - jacquesm 10y ago
      I had a deal with a big provider in NL to pay a fixed fee every month, when they backed out I forced them to pay the full amount over the duration of the contract in one go. Not saying that will always work, but it did work for me (it wasn't a billion though (obviously), but a few hundred K).

rockdoe 10y ago

Kara Swisher doesn't seem to provide any indication of where the information she's reporting came from She claims to have seen the contract in the first line of the article.

yuhong 10y ago

I noticed that the submitter is dblohm7.

hyperpape 10y ago

As I read it, that analysis (about Mozilla losing money from a Yahoo sale) doesn't factor in the $1 billion payment Mozilla would be owed if they walk away, and is based on the assumption that Mozilla won't be able to make another search deal to replace its revenue with Yahoo. It's probably true that they can't replace 100% of it, but if they partially replace it, and then make up for the shortfall with that billion, that probably takes care of them for many years.

jacquesm 10y ago
Another possible scenario: Mozilla pockets $1B, several months later Yahoo goes bust and then they're free to do whatever they want because Yahoo can't perform any more.
- rockdoe 10y ago
  The question is, if there's no healthy competition in the search space, isn't Mozilla (and the web) ultimately still f----ed?
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    Long term quite probably yes, but if they manage that money wisely and concentrate on their core product rather than on all kinds of funky (and costly) stuff it could last for a long time.
  - pekk 10y ago
    Yahoo isn't offering healthy competition anyway, really.
- geobmx540 10y ago
  "pockets $1B", I think that's it's still over several years, I suspect if they go "bust" they won't have that 1B
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    I had a deal with a big provider in NL to pay a fixed fee every month, when they backed out I forced them to pay the full amount over the duration of the contract in one go. Not saying that will always work, but it did work for me (it wasn't a billion though (obviously), but a few hundred K).