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> As someone who gardens, and has a little 3 acre homestead Unrelated to aquaponics, what do you find the effort/yield is on that? I've always found with anyt
by fweespeech 10y ago
> As someone who gardens, and has a little 3 acre homestead
Unrelated to aquaponics, what do you find the effort/yield is on that?
I've always found with anything larger than a small garden is I'm basically buying a job that pays less than $10/hr. So I've never really felt the urge to go as big as 3 acres since I'd feel that was more than a hobby.
> 1) I understand buying off the shelf parts for your prototype. But spending hundreds of dollars to be shipped parts I could have bought myself is just adding more middle-men into the supply chain. At this point, just sell the parts list and plans for $20. And when you have built parts with ease of assembly in mind, so this is 5x easier than DIY with parts from home depot... THEN sell the kit.
I've have to agree with this as far as routes go. DIY home assembled aquaponics is a pretty common topic that has plenty written 'bout it. It just isn't worth buying a kit without both of:
A) Detailed input/outputs & cost/production for multiple geographic areas so the TCO and lifetime product is basically known. (i.e. Substantial risk reduction greater than the cost of the middle man. The only margin on DIY is the experimentation phase.)
B) An actual kit that is substantially cheaper and/or easier than Home Depot and DIY. In other words, in addition to the reduction of risk due to better info, it also needs to be cheaper in at least one dimension than DIY.
- codingdave 10y agoThe effort/yield sucks. We do produce a lot of our own food, but give up much of our free time to do it. On the other hand, we are not dependent on the standard grocery store supply chain in this country, and while that is worthless right now, there are potential future scenarios where that is priceless. But mostly, we do this as a hobby and so that our kids know how to produce food, whether or not they choose to actually do so when they grow up.
- nitrogen 10y agoHome grown food is also way fresher and tastier than anything from a supermarket, so it's difficult to make a direct price comparison.
- fweespeech 10y agoOrganic food prices in the local supermarket is the price point I compare against when I do effort vs. yield. I find its a pretty fair comparison.
- fweespeech 10y agoYay! I'm not incompetent. :) But in all seriousness, yeah, I get that. I keep emergency supplies (90 days/person of backpacking food + water + filters). I also cycle the emergency supplies faster than they expire due to my interests (Food, hiking, computers, books are the sum total of my hobbies) so I find its a good balance point for me since I don't really expect a supply chain disruption would last substantially longer than 90 days.