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For the people downvoting the parent comment: After an officer pushed me flat down from a sitting position (at an impromptu, peaceful sit-in), another pushed h

For the people downvoting the parent comment: After an officer pushed me flat down from a sitting position (at an impromptu, peaceful sit-in), another pushed his knee in my back, and started punching me in the ribs multiple times (eventually bruising one) and crying "he's resisting arrest!" until I summoned enough strength to push up a bit, release my right arm from under my body, and put it behind my own back, at which point the officer stopped punching and crying. I was not resisting arrest, but the fact that my arm was pinned under my own body was enough to make the claim. Oh yeah, they smashed my glasses too.

madaxe_again 10y ago
If you read the autopsy it's absolutely consistent with pretty much exactly this - big bruise in the small of his back where someone dropped knee-first onto him, lots of smaller bruises on his shoulders, sides, and big bruises on his arms, where someone gripped him like a vice.
Zigurd 10y ago
I'm surprised more people don't go tit for tat on cops that do that. It's shocking that cops's reputations are not ruined permanently, and to the extent they cannot continue in their jobs and living in their communities when they use extralegal punishment.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  Going 'tit for tat' on people that carry weapons and are totally within their rights of using them on you when you go 'tit for tat' seems like a career limiting move to me.
  - Zigurd 10y ago
    There is a lot of space between doing nothing, or filing a complaint that gets thrown in a wastebasket, and having a lynching. Why, for example, don't we have in-depth media coverage of the cops who did these killings? What are their backgrounds? Do they have a history of extralegal violence? What are their community connections, and do those have anything to do with them not having been arrested for, at least, manslaughter? Should the community allow the PD to shield them from publicity and protest?
    - danso 10y ago
      Some officer-involved homicides do attract increased scrutiny of the officers: Darren Wilson (Michael Brown): http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop Daniel Pantaleo (Eric Garner): http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/daniel-pantaleo-fatal-choke-ready-back-job-article-1.2289076 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/daniel-pantaleo-fatal-ch... Timothy Loehmann (Tamir Rice): http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/timothy_loehmann_the_cleveland.html http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/timothy_loe... Peter Liang (Akai Gurley): http://nypost.com/2016/02/04/partner-reveals-why-he-didnt-try-to-resuscitate-man-shot-by-nypd/ http://nypost.com/2016/02/04/partner-reveals-why-he-didnt-tr...
      - Zigurd 10y ago
        That's a good start. Until we have first-world performance levels the reputational hit from beating, much less killing, people should be enough to to prevent that cop from continuing to work as a cop, and to force the PD to institute the training and reform needed to prevent that happening with other cops.
        mindslight 10y ago
        Erm, internal sanctions don't seem to work - that's the state of affairs we currently have. For actual justice, cops need to be subject to the exact same law as everyone else. The mens rea of premeditation usually increases the severity of a crime, but presently for cops it's seen as excusing it.
    - digler999 10y ago
      I think you're lost, here http://www.infowars.com http://www.infowars.com is where you probably meant to go. You're welcome.
      - Zigurd 10y ago
        That's a pitiful sentiment, that intense press coverage of thuggish police should be considered "conspiracy theory" of some sort. It's consumerism, in the way the first world people expect their food not to be contaminated, or our cars not to catch fire.

madaxe_again 10y ago

If you read the autopsy it's absolutely consistent with pretty much exactly this - big bruise in the small of his back where someone dropped knee-first onto him, lots of smaller bruises on his shoulders, sides, and big bruises on his arms, where someone gripped him like a vice.

Zigurd 10y ago

I'm surprised more people don't go tit for tat on cops that do that. It's shocking that cops's reputations are not ruined permanently, and to the extent they cannot continue in their jobs and living in their communities when they use extralegal punishment.

jacquesm 10y ago
Going 'tit for tat' on people that carry weapons and are totally within their rights of using them on you when you go 'tit for tat' seems like a career limiting move to me.
- Zigurd 10y ago
  There is a lot of space between doing nothing, or filing a complaint that gets thrown in a wastebasket, and having a lynching. Why, for example, don't we have in-depth media coverage of the cops who did these killings? What are their backgrounds? Do they have a history of extralegal violence? What are their community connections, and do those have anything to do with them not having been arrested for, at least, manslaughter? Should the community allow the PD to shield them from publicity and protest?
  - danso 10y ago
    Some officer-involved homicides do attract increased scrutiny of the officers: Darren Wilson (Michael Brown): http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/the-cop Daniel Pantaleo (Eric Garner): http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/daniel-pantaleo-fatal-choke-ready-back-job-article-1.2289076 http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/daniel-pantaleo-fatal-ch... Timothy Loehmann (Tamir Rice): http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/timothy_loehmann_the_cleveland.html http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/01/timothy_loe... Peter Liang (Akai Gurley): http://nypost.com/2016/02/04/partner-reveals-why-he-didnt-try-to-resuscitate-man-shot-by-nypd/ http://nypost.com/2016/02/04/partner-reveals-why-he-didnt-tr...
    - Zigurd 10y ago
      That's a good start. Until we have first-world performance levels the reputational hit from beating, much less killing, people should be enough to to prevent that cop from continuing to work as a cop, and to force the PD to institute the training and reform needed to prevent that happening with other cops.
      - mindslight 10y ago
        Erm, internal sanctions don't seem to work - that's the state of affairs we currently have. For actual justice, cops need to be subject to the exact same law as everyone else. The mens rea of premeditation usually increases the severity of a crime, but presently for cops it's seen as excusing it.
  - digler999 10y ago
    I think you're lost, here http://www.infowars.com http://www.infowars.com is where you probably meant to go. You're welcome.
    - Zigurd 10y ago
      That's a pitiful sentiment, that intense press coverage of thuggish police should be considered "conspiracy theory" of some sort. It's consumerism, in the way the first world people expect their food not to be contaminated, or our cars not to catch fire.