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For my seasonal pollen allergies here's what I do. a) Take a spoonful of dried bee bread b) Take 2 spoonful of local honey c) Add 100ml warm water d) Stir it un
by noipv4 10y ago
For my seasonal pollen allergies here's what I do.
a) Take a spoonful of dried bee bread
b) Take 2 spoonful of local honey
c) Add 100ml warm water
d) Stir it until the bee-bread dissolves
e) Drink it. (Starts acting in 10 minutes)
Anyone know why it works?
- hueving 10y agoPlacebo effect
- adrianN 10y agoIt could also be something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy#Oral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy#Oral
- noipv4 10y agoThis might be it. Very interesting!!
- nommm-nommm 10y agoIt most certainly is not. You don't respond immediately to immunotherapy and certainly not in 10 minutes.
- fit2rule 10y ago.. unless you've been doing the "10-minute fix" for some years ..
- nommm-nommm 10y agoIt still doesn't work that way though. The GP didn't describe immunotherapy, they described "take a substance, feel better in a few minutes" like an aspirin. That is just not how immunotherapy works.
- noipv4 10y agoDo you have a hypothesis as to why it works? In my case it has almost the same antihistamine effect as 60mg Allegra pill.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoNo mechanism of action I know of other than placebo effect. You did not describe anything that resembles immunotherapy. Immunotherapy takes a very long time (months to over a year) before you start to notice an improvement in symptoms and requires year round treatment, not just during allergy season. After 3-5 years treatment is discontinued.
- noipv4 10y agoCan you suggest what kind of blood test can determine if my immune system is reacting to the concoction? In the past my eosonophil and neutrophil numbers were very high during seasonal allergies. Would testing for these numbers be indicative?
- nommm-nommm 10y agoI am no doctor so I do not. Try consulting yours.
- noipv4 10y agoUnfortunately I do not have the finances to consult a specialist, and thus my trial with non-Rx treatment for hay-fever like honey, BB, and other stuff. Anti-histamines like Allegra, Zyrtec, and Xyzal are quite the sleep inducers for me.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoGP said "starts acting in 10 minutes" Immunotherapy doesn't work that way.
- arkades 10y agoAllergen immunotherapy requires long-term small-dose exposures which cause an immunoglobulin class switching resulting, in effect, a "masking" of the allergen with the non-allergy-inducing globulin. It requires small doses over an extended period of time: no bolus infusion (e.g., "I'm having my big cup of pollen tea now") is going to do it, and it's not going manifest over a short period of time ("and 20 minutes later I feel better.") Additionally, a general fault of immunotherapy for allergy is that we tend to present the allergen in a manner distinct from its biological presentation - e.g., oral presentation of inhaled allergens. Since we have different mucosa-associated lymphoid tissues throughout the body, and since they do react differently, generally you're not going to get a great response to oral administration of a non-oral allergen (e.g., something you'd normally inhale, like pollen).
- goda90 10y agoPlacebo effect can be nice to have as long as you're not doing anything dangerous to get it.
- DKnoll3 10y agoThat's quite a presumption you have there.
- retox 10y agoHow often do you do this, and how long do the effects last? Do your allergies stop bothering you entirely? I am plagued by hayfever in the warm season and my only option seems to be to munch antihistamines each morning, or twice a day sometimes.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoFlonanse is a gift from the gods for me and is now over the counter. Try it! It works immediately for me and better than anything else. Your mileage may vary. You can also see an allergist for actual immunotherapy but you have to commit to getting regular shots (decreasing in frequency) for a few years which can be pretty inconvenient especially because you must stay at the office for a half hour afterwards to make sure there was no life threatening reaction... but it is the only thing that could actually cure you of allergies after the immunotherapy is stopped.
- noipv4 10y agoI do this whenever I have sneezing and itchy eyes. During peak allergy season 3 times a day is normal. I have tried honey alone and BB alone. Never worked individually. It only works if I dissolve BB + honey in warm water. Have been doing this since 2 seasons, i.e. 2 years (~3 month season April, May, June)
- cmurf 10y agoNo, but that reaction time to me suggests insulin suppressing the histamine released due to the allergy. Or it could be the concoction provides a mild euphoric effect and it's adrenaline that's offsetting histamine reaction. Either way the short term effect is probably related to sugar and would happen with any sugar in this concentration, the long term effect probably is about the locally sourced honey and pollen desensitizing the reaction to air pollens, where if you used non-local bee products the efficacy would probably be less.
- jcoffland 10y agoFrom the New York Times: > Among allergy sufferers, there is a widespread belief that locally produced honey can alleviate symptoms. . .when University of Connecticut Health Center researchers did a test, they found that the honey had no such effect. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/health/10really.html http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/05/10/health/10really.html