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Bee Bread
- foreigner 10y agoHow did they not make the obvious "beebliography" pun at the end? I would not have been able to resist that.
- cpach 10y agoI had no idea that Nordic Food Lab had a blog. Really fascinating!
- cvs268 10y ago@emidln U probably forgot that U had submitted the same article on HN ~6months ago... https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nordicfoodlab.org https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=nordicfoodlab.org Thanks for sharing though, i had missed it the last time around. :) :)
- emidln 10y agoI wouldn't say that I forgot, more that I was reminded by an email: Hi there, [snip] looks good, but didn't get much attention. Would you care to repost it? You can do so here: [snip]. Please use the same account (emidln), title, and URL. When these match, the software will give the repost an upvote from the mods, plus we'll help make sure it doesn't get flagged. This is part of an experiment in giving good HN submissions multiple chances at the front page. If you have any questions, let us know. And if you don't want these emails, sorry! Tell us and we won't do it again. Thanks for posting good things to Hacker News, Daniel
- kelukelugames 10y agoAre there multiple mods or is just the one?
- cvs268 10y agoCool! Good initiative Daniel :)
- ComteDeLaFere 10y agoWait, so upvotes from readers are secondary to mod upvotes in some cases? Not that I immediately disagree, but it's an interesting feature.
- viraptor 10y agoI guess it's easier to verify. Otherwise, you'd get an instant bump on all reposts with all the votes the original accumulated.
- dang 10y agoI've posted extensively about how and why we do this. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11662380 and follow the links back from there. The purpose is to ensure that the HN front page sees more of the many high-quality stories that get posted here. In that respect the experiment has definitely been a success.
- Aelinsaar 10y agoA very restrained response, and very effective. I just wanted to add that I really enjoyed this article, and this is the first I've seen it.
- celticninja 10y agoGood idea.
- dang 10y agoIn addition to the bit about repost invites, it's important to know that if a good article hasn't had significant attention in the last year or so, reposts are ok. That's in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. So even if we hadn't sent an email, the repost would have been just fine.
- PaulHoule 10y agoOur beekeeper just told us our hives made 800 lbs of honey so far this year.
- roel_v 10y agoWhereabouts is that? How many hives?
- PaulHoule 10y agoAbout 10. 2 are superperformers, 3 strong, the others mediocre. The hives are at the only place in the valley which is flat enough to mow but has not been mowed so there is very rich vegetation. This is in Upstate New York near Ithaca.
- kalleboo 10y agoI would have assumed you measured honey in liters but thinking about it measuring by weight is probably more practical...
- Aelinsaar 10y agoYou lucky lucky dog. What kind of flowers do they have access to primarily?
- andrelaszlo 10y agoHilarious coincident that the photographer's name is Josh Pollen!
- Aelinsaar 10y agoOr is this the coming of the bee revolution?! Wake up sheeple!!! (Just kidding of course). Seriously though, I've never heard of the last name "Pollen", is there any chance that it's pseudonym?
- knodi123 10y agoMight just be an alternate spelling of Pollan. Which, concidentally, http://michaelpollan.com/books/in-defense-of-food/ http://michaelpollan.com/books/in-defense-of-food/
- sov 10y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism in action!
- noipv4 10y agoFor my seasonal pollen allergies here's what I do. a) Take a spoonful of dried bee bread b) Take 2 spoonful of local honey c) Add 100ml warm water d) Stir it until the bee-bread dissolves e) Drink it. (Starts acting in 10 minutes) Anyone know why it works?
- hueving 10y agoPlacebo effect
- adrianN 10y agoIt could also be something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy#Oral https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergen_immunotherapy#Oral
- noipv4 10y agoThis might be it. Very interesting!!
- nommm-nommm 10y agoIt most certainly is not. You don't respond immediately to immunotherapy and certainly not in 10 minutes.
- fit2rule 10y ago.. unless you've been doing the "10-minute fix" for some years ..
- nommm-nommm 10y agoIt still doesn't work that way though. The GP didn't describe immunotherapy, they described "take a substance, feel better in a few minutes" like an aspirin. That is just not how immunotherapy works.
- adrianwaj 10y agoBee Bread is awesome and much more nutritious and digestible than flower pollen (mistakenly called bee pollen) which the bees ferment in their hive to make bee bread. The problem I've found is that anything coming from Lithuania or Latvia (a lot on ebay), could be radioactive from Chernobyl, as radioactivity concentrates in pollen. That's my assessment of it anyway, so I won't risk it. Also, there was another accident in Lithuania in 2010. I'd prefer that Bee Bread became more mainstream so that it could be bought from local producers who'd respond to that demand. Bee bread from the Altai mountains in Siberia is double the price of the eastern European BB. Ideally, BB from New Zealand would be best, but I couldn't find it. Eg Manuka.
- noipv4 10y agoBB can be found on supermarket shelves and organic food shops all over CH. one can also order online for e.g. www.swiss-pollen.ch
- tomaac 10y agoDo you have any evidence or source that proves your claims about radioactive bee bread in Latvia and Lithuania? These countries actually were not affected that much. Much less than Scandinavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#National_and_international_spread_of_radioactive_substances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster#National_an... You should actually be worried about pesticides which kills bees and poisons bee honey and bread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide_toxicity_to_bees https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesticide_toxicity_to_bees
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoIts strange where radioactive particles end up. In the Black Forest its in fungi that grow on trees, a favorite food of wild board. So all wild boar taken in the Black Forest must be tested with a Geiger counter before the meat can be sold! Over 500 REMS (?) and no sale.
- nommm-nommm 10y agoHow is bee bread "more digestible?" I've never had an issue digesting honey. Do others? Is it common for honey to cause gastrointestinal symptoms?
- badloginagain 10y agoThat was a fascinating read! Who would have guessed that bees intentionally ferment food sources. I wonder if there is anything humans can learn from bee fermentation process. So cool, thanks for sharing!
- exolymph 10y agoI think "intentionally" might be a bit of an overstatement — it's more like their behavior patterns have evolved in response to the benefits of fermentation.
- bradbeattie 10y agoAre there any negative effects to harvesting this bee bread? > But the bees do not consume their pollen fresh. Instead, they take it into the hive and pack the granules into empty comb cells, mixing them with nectar and digestive fluids and sealing the cell with a drop of honey. Once processed in this way, the pollen remains stable indefinitely. Beekeepers call this form of pollen ‘perga’ or ‘bee bread’. This implies it's their food. Given the recent concerns with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colony_collapse_disorder, is this unusual delicacy worth the potential environmental damages? (I don't mean that rhetorically; It's an actual question.)
- 0xffff2 10y agoWhat does this have to do with colony collapse disorder? AFAIK, we don't really understand colony collapse disorder, but I think it's safe to say it doesn't have anything to do with humans taking the bees' food. In fact, the very first sentence of the Wikipedia articles says "Colony collapse disorder is the phenomenon that occurs when the majority of worker bees in a colony disappear and leave behind ... plenty of food..."
- bpchaps 10y ago> I think it's safe to say it doesn't have anything to do with humans taking the bees' food. > we don't really understand colony collapse disorder Look at the bee expert here. ;) But really, the parent post didn't make a direct connection to the two. More of an implication of a combination of the two being pretty disastrous.
- 0xffff2 10y agoI mean, humans have been harvesting bee products for at least a few thousand years...
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoThe title of "Sealer of the Honey" was given in the First Dynasty, Egypt! So yes quite a long time.
- levisdown 10y agoAny chance I can make some with some kitchen appliances? http://www.crazysales.com.au/small-kitchen-appliances/ http://www.crazysales.com.au/small-kitchen-appliances/