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Or they didn't expect a "lose", depending on what side of the opinion you're on. Either way, it shouldn't have been on the "pro-leave" campaigners to implement

by zo1 10y ago

Or they didn't expect a "lose", depending on what side of the opinion you're on. Either way, it shouldn't have been on the "pro-leave" campaigners to implement a plan. That's for the government of the UK to do now that it's been "decided" that they should leave.

Chris2048 10y ago
> it shouldn't have been on the "pro-leave" campaigners to implement a plan Problem with this is it raise the bar. Who controls the resources available for plan-making? The same thing happens in research, where certain results can be suffocated through lack of funding. The government that raised the referendum should have prepared for either result. Seems the government figured it wouldn't survive being in power with a brexit result anyway (and might not want to), so why allow a plan to happen - the more the next party struggles the better...
- Chris2048 10y ago
  I'll add this metaphor: Here's a large boulder that looks like it might/mightn't be about to fall over a cliff. I super-glued your hand to it - the glue's not completely dry yet, but it sure will hurt pulling your hand away (might take off some skin, you could bleed to death!) - better not do it?
TillE 10y ago
Nobody expected the Leave campaign to have a 500 page detailed technical plan. Just a basic outline in terms of what was expected on free movement and the common market would be nice. Nobody seems to be able to agree on this or to make a reasonable proposal that the EU might actually agree to. They can't even say what they want, except perhaps for the absurd fantasy where they get all of the benefits of the EU and none of the obligations.
simonh 10y ago
Exactly right. The Government held the referendum and the government should implement it's result. If Cameron wasn't willing to implement the result, he should have said so beforehand - and I'm a lifelong Conservative voter (except for 1997). Even a Labour government would have been better than this!
- DavidHm 10y ago
  Problem with that is that if he had said he would resign after a Leave vote, many people would have voted leave just to get rid of him (and if you think this is uncharitable, think of all the people who voted leave as a protest vote against the London elite)

by zo1 10y ago

Chris2048 10y ago

> it shouldn't have been on the "pro-leave" campaigners to implement a plan Problem with this is it raise the bar. Who controls the resources available for plan-making? The same thing happens in research, where certain results can be suffocated through lack of funding. The government that raised the referendum should have prepared for either result. Seems the government figured it wouldn't survive being in power with a brexit result anyway (and might not want to), so why allow a plan to happen - the more the next party struggles the better...

Chris2048 10y ago
I'll add this metaphor: Here's a large boulder that looks like it might/mightn't be about to fall over a cliff. I super-glued your hand to it - the glue's not completely dry yet, but it sure will hurt pulling your hand away (might take off some skin, you could bleed to death!) - better not do it?

TillE 10y ago

Nobody expected the Leave campaign to have a 500 page detailed technical plan. Just a basic outline in terms of what was expected on free movement and the common market would be nice. Nobody seems to be able to agree on this or to make a reasonable proposal that the EU might actually agree to. They can't even say what they want, except perhaps for the absurd fantasy where they get all of the benefits of the EU and none of the obligations.

simonh 10y ago

Exactly right. The Government held the referendum and the government should implement it's result. If Cameron wasn't willing to implement the result, he should have said so beforehand - and I'm a lifelong Conservative voter (except for 1997). Even a Labour government would have been better than this!

DavidHm 10y ago
Problem with that is that if he had said he would resign after a Leave vote, many people would have voted leave just to get rid of him (and if you think this is uncharitable, think of all the people who voted leave as a protest vote against the London elite)