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You should say anything about leaving until you have another job. Do not try to use the possibility of leaving as leverage to get a raise. Absolutely do not t

You should say anything about leaving until you have another job. Do not try to use the possibility of leaving as leverage to get a raise. Absolutely do not tell them you are "looking around".

rnd88876 10y ago
Would you elaborate why? Because I am mostly an open, even oversharing person that thinks that more information everybody knows, the better. And I would like it much better if the last four colleagues that left opened some sort of a discussion as early as possible? On the other hand, I do understand that trying to use leaving as a leverage in any relationship is damaging (except if you are haggling on a oriental-markt :P) So if I understand correctly, the best approach for me is: * Negotiate the best possible position in the prospective place * Weigh it against my current situation * Swiftly decide if I accept the new position * If so, announce to my boss that I have accepted a better offer elsewhere
- chrisbennet 10y ago
  At my last real job, they gave me a couple of months of notice (funding cut) and the guy before me, he gave them a couple of months notice. So this sort of openness does exist but is extremely atypical. Here are some typical scenarios: Employee: "I'm thinking of leaving. I'd rather stay here but I think my pay is below market. Can you do anything to address that?" Manager: "Why yes, I'll see what I can do at your next review. We really like your work." He's out of here, its never the pay. I've probably bought myself a month to get his replacement. I can't trust him anymore, he's not loyal to what we're trying do here. Employee: "I got a job offer from another company. If you match it I'll stay." Manager: "Let me see what I can do. I wish you'd come to me earlier" He is -so- out of here. He's just going to leave within a year. I'll get him a raise and keep him until I get a replacement. Employee: "I've taken another position but I'm happy to stay another two weeks." Manager: "Well I wish you had told me earlier." Employee: "Hey, I can't log in! Here come HR with a box and the guy from security..."

You should say anything about leaving until you have another job. Do not try to use the possibility of leaving as leverage to get a raise. Absolutely do not tell them you are "looking around".

rnd88876 10y ago

Would you elaborate why? Because I am mostly an open, even oversharing person that thinks that more information everybody knows, the better. And I would like it much better if the last four colleagues that left opened some sort of a discussion as early as possible? On the other hand, I do understand that trying to use leaving as a leverage in any relationship is damaging (except if you are haggling on a oriental-markt :P) So if I understand correctly, the best approach for me is: * Negotiate the best possible position in the prospective place * Weigh it against my current situation * Swiftly decide if I accept the new position * If so, announce to my boss that I have accepted a better offer elsewhere

chrisbennet 10y ago
At my last real job, they gave me a couple of months of notice (funding cut) and the guy before me, he gave them a couple of months notice. So this sort of openness does exist but is extremely atypical. Here are some typical scenarios: Employee: "I'm thinking of leaving. I'd rather stay here but I think my pay is below market. Can you do anything to address that?" Manager: "Why yes, I'll see what I can do at your next review. We really like your work." He's out of here, its never the pay. I've probably bought myself a month to get his replacement. I can't trust him anymore, he's not loyal to what we're trying do here. Employee: "I got a job offer from another company. If you match it I'll stay." Manager: "Let me see what I can do. I wish you'd come to me earlier" He is -so- out of here. He's just going to leave within a year. I'll get him a raise and keep him until I get a replacement. Employee: "I've taken another position but I'm happy to stay another two weeks." Manager: "Well I wish you had told me earlier." Employee: "Hey, I can't log in! Here come HR with a box and the guy from security..."