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Orrrr what about selfcontrol? The only notifications I get on my smartphone are system notifications, SMS, and Telegram (and that's only when I intentionally go

by Aoyagi 10y ago

Orrrr what about selfcontrol? The only notifications I get on my smartphone are system notifications, SMS, and Telegram (and that's only when I intentionally go online, otherwise I leave the device off-line).

dredmorbius 10y ago
"Self control" costs mental energy, it imposes cognitive load. If you want to go on a diet, don't exercise self control by not opening the bag of Oreos. Throw the fucking bag of Oreos and don't buy any more. Practicing diet hygiene by only buying healthy foods is far easier than trying to avoid eating crap that's in front of your face. Practicing security hygiene by eliminating situations which give rise to security risks (e.g., buffer overflows, and OpenBSD's rewrite of core libraries to that effect) is far easier than trying to remember to check your string lengths on every operation. Practicing mental hygiene by eliminating the very possibility of interruption is vastly easier than reminding yourself to resist Every. Single. Fucking. Temptation. That. Comes. Along. See Daniel Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow, first chapter or so. Covers this well.
- Aoyagi 10y ago
  I'm aware of that. Hence what I said earlier. I don't get, for example, Facebook notifications because I don't have Facebook on my device. Or anything else that I know could cause "tyranny of notifications". I mean, it basically is not buying the Oreos. But unlike Oreos, applications on modern smartphones are much easier to obtain and a lot of people still believe something along the lines of "more 'apps', more productivity", so you have to pull out arguably more effort. Regardless, people are to blame themselves in both cases.
  - dredmorbius 10y ago
    Thinking back over my experience: Tablet, wifi only, no phone. Very few social aps, and reducing those. Ditto messaging. Google's crap is installed and cannot be removed, though some apps can be disabled. I'm routinely queried by websites whether I'll allow location data. No, I won't. That's disabled at device level, and I should never be queried for that. Ever. Somehow, Google Hangouts got itself convinced I was logged in. I'm not. Got some random connects. Backed out and blocked the shit out of as much of that as possible. Google Maps pestered me for location information every fucking time. No, that's not how I used this app, and I'm not going to provide it. Finally uninstalled/disabled the app. YouTube running pre-roll ads. Finally disabled that. Google Play Store wanted to give me games. I walked through disabling and ripping out as much of that as I could. I think some of it's been walked back. Google Chrome browser: autoplay video, audio, popover crap, and no adblock. I'm about ready to uninstall / block it. Various other nags, including "application optimisation" from Android itself. Really, just fucking figure out how to fucking optimise yourself and leave me the fuck out of it. I use this device for research, some writing, and some online posting. That's pretty much it. It still bugs the fucking crap out of me and is shit for what it does. I'm relatively convinced this is the last full-on Android device I'll buy. It's been semi-useful, but frustrating as fuck, a privacy nightmare, the tablet itself is locked down pretty hard, and the keyboard-case from Logitech was defective from purchase and now Logitech are refusing to replace it with same -- I'd need a case, stand, and keyboard to replace it, they're offering at best a keyboard. Lawsuit and consumer complaint time. Pretty much a clusterfuck all around.
    - Aoyagi 10y ago
      Wow. I've only used Android for testing, never for real world use, and what you say almost makes me glad I'm stuck with Windows 10 Mobile (well, or WP8). Or to go with Cyanogenmod as soon as I switch.
      - dredmorbius 10y ago
        The best antidote for Google love and trust is using Google products and tools.

by Aoyagi 10y ago

dredmorbius 10y ago

"Self control" costs mental energy, it imposes cognitive load. If you want to go on a diet, don't exercise self control by not opening the bag of Oreos. Throw the fucking bag of Oreos and don't buy any more. Practicing diet hygiene by only buying healthy foods is far easier than trying to avoid eating crap that's in front of your face. Practicing security hygiene by eliminating situations which give rise to security risks (e.g., buffer overflows, and OpenBSD's rewrite of core libraries to that effect) is far easier than trying to remember to check your string lengths on every operation. Practicing mental hygiene by eliminating the very possibility of interruption is vastly easier than reminding yourself to resist Every. Single. Fucking. Temptation. That. Comes. Along. See Daniel Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow, first chapter or so. Covers this well.

Aoyagi 10y ago
I'm aware of that. Hence what I said earlier. I don't get, for example, Facebook notifications because I don't have Facebook on my device. Or anything else that I know could cause "tyranny of notifications". I mean, it basically is not buying the Oreos. But unlike Oreos, applications on modern smartphones are much easier to obtain and a lot of people still believe something along the lines of "more 'apps', more productivity", so you have to pull out arguably more effort. Regardless, people are to blame themselves in both cases.
- dredmorbius 10y ago
  Thinking back over my experience: Tablet, wifi only, no phone. Very few social aps, and reducing those. Ditto messaging. Google's crap is installed and cannot be removed, though some apps can be disabled. I'm routinely queried by websites whether I'll allow location data. No, I won't. That's disabled at device level, and I should never be queried for that. Ever. Somehow, Google Hangouts got itself convinced I was logged in. I'm not. Got some random connects. Backed out and blocked the shit out of as much of that as possible. Google Maps pestered me for location information every fucking time. No, that's not how I used this app, and I'm not going to provide it. Finally uninstalled/disabled the app. YouTube running pre-roll ads. Finally disabled that. Google Play Store wanted to give me games. I walked through disabling and ripping out as much of that as I could. I think some of it's been walked back. Google Chrome browser: autoplay video, audio, popover crap, and no adblock. I'm about ready to uninstall / block it. Various other nags, including "application optimisation" from Android itself. Really, just fucking figure out how to fucking optimise yourself and leave me the fuck out of it. I use this device for research, some writing, and some online posting. That's pretty much it. It still bugs the fucking crap out of me and is shit for what it does. I'm relatively convinced this is the last full-on Android device I'll buy. It's been semi-useful, but frustrating as fuck, a privacy nightmare, the tablet itself is locked down pretty hard, and the keyboard-case from Logitech was defective from purchase and now Logitech are refusing to replace it with same -- I'd need a case, stand, and keyboard to replace it, they're offering at best a keyboard. Lawsuit and consumer complaint time. Pretty much a clusterfuck all around.
  - Aoyagi 10y ago
    Wow. I've only used Android for testing, never for real world use, and what you say almost makes me glad I'm stuck with Windows 10 Mobile (well, or WP8). Or to go with Cyanogenmod as soon as I switch.
    - dredmorbius 10y ago
      The best antidote for Google love and trust is using Google products and tools.