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I'd agree with you that some police are too heavy handed for the everyday situation. However, there are a lot of violence / gang problems within the black commu

I'd agree with you that some police are too heavy handed for the everyday situation. However, there are a lot of violence / gang problems within the black communities in the US. That leads to cities and police forces cracking down on those violent areas which leads to even more heavy handedness and even more distrust by those communities. Its a perpetual cycle. It seems that we need a revolution on both sides for anything meaningful to happen. Sadly we probably won't see that happen anytime soon. Hopefully we can at least pass some meaningful reform related to drug imprisonment which would keep a lot of people out of jail for petty things, which just ends up feeding the cycle to begin with.

0707_hn 10y ago
I can't fully address your comment as I don't have access to the relevant data (regarding black community violence and its correlation with "heavy handed" police). What I will suggest is that overall violence does not seem to be correlated with the rate of police killings - see the third image in ref. 1. [1] http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015 http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015 EDIT: I can't reply to you due to the HN rate limit. Please see my response below: I appreciate your response but I take issue with the data source behind that post (ref 1). I don't intend to take it apart fully, but it appeared to included factors (e.g., average commute time) that: 1. Systematically disfavor urban areas 2. Have little bearing to the question at hand, whether violence is correlated with police killings Additionally, my claim above (2) is that violence and police killings, across the municipalities with the highest rates of police killings, are not correlated (ref. 3). [1] http://places.findthehome.com/#guide http://places.findthehome.com/#guide [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12048043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12048043 [3] http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/5677f85d1115e0704eb36ed3/1450702944850/ http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5...
- tomschlick 10y ago
  Just via some quick googling, here are the most dangerous (violent) cities in the US. A lot of them match up to the top of the list you provided. http://kdvr.com/2015/05/08/by-the-numbers-here-are-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/ http://kdvr.com/2015/05/08/by-the-numbers-here-are-the-most-...

0707_hn 10y ago

I can't fully address your comment as I don't have access to the relevant data (regarding black community violence and its correlation with "heavy handed" police). What I will suggest is that overall violence does not seem to be correlated with the rate of police killings - see the third image in ref. 1. [1] http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015 http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/2015 EDIT: I can't reply to you due to the HN rate limit. Please see my response below: I appreciate your response but I take issue with the data source behind that post (ref 1). I don't intend to take it apart fully, but it appeared to included factors (e.g., average commute time) that: 1. Systematically disfavor urban areas 2. Have little bearing to the question at hand, whether violence is correlated with police killings Additionally, my claim above (2) is that violence and police killings, across the municipalities with the highest rates of police killings, are not correlated (ref. 3). [1] http://places.findthehome.com/#guide http://places.findthehome.com/#guide [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12048043 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12048043 [3] http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5b6/t/5677f85d1115e0704eb36ed3/1450702944850/ http://static1.squarespace.com/static/54ecf211e4b0ed744420c5...

tomschlick 10y ago
Just via some quick googling, here are the most dangerous (violent) cities in the US. A lot of them match up to the top of the list you provided. http://kdvr.com/2015/05/08/by-the-numbers-here-are-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/ http://kdvr.com/2015/05/08/by-the-numbers-here-are-the-most-...