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I have a completely different opinion. What do you have your following distance set to? I have mine set to 6 or 7 and it starts slowing down well ahead of when

by eclipxe 10y ago

I have a completely different opinion. What do you have your following distance set to? I have mine set to 6 or 7 and it starts slowing down well ahead of when I would slow down. I think you're over thinking things - just let it do its thing, but be ready to resume control if needed. I drive 90% of the time in Auto Pilot, and it makes driving exponentially more relaxing and safer.

argonaut 10y ago
Yes, but that's the problem. Just "letting it do its thing" and relaxing/trusting/expecting it to "do the right thing" is what leads to accidents like this. And if you trust Autopilot to do the right thing, and get into a fatal accident, Tesla will say you should have been paying attention!
- sethjgore 10y ago
  Isn't that similar to saying horseless carriages cannot be as good as horses? Our experience in driving is never compared to the experience of riding in a carriage or even harnessing a horse. Driving is considered a discrete experience in its own class. Perhaps our fears and expectations of mechanical error is ignorant of our own overconfidence in our own driving control. Are we always in control of our attention? Do we always make the most accurate observations as we drive? Why do we establish the experience of being driven by autopilot as something comparable to the actual action of human, hand-feet-sight-controlled driving (steering wheel-acceleration/deacceleration-dashboard/windshield/mirrors)? We cannot trust the horse to do the same things as the car nor can we trust the car to do be same as horse. We are on the cusp of moving responsibility from the human engineered transport (car) to the machine engineered (autopilot) transport, which transfer was previously animal to human engineered transport (horse to car). We will believe what establishes our worldview and ignore what demolishes the same foundations.
  - argonaut 10y ago
    No, it's not the same. Not sure why you think that analogy even makes sense.
- eclipxe 10y ago
  You missed my: >but be ready to resume control if needed Let it do it's thing, relax, but be vigilant and ready to take over. It's not that hard. Watch the road, watch the dash and what it sees, if something goes awry (happens rarely) then just resume control.

by eclipxe 10y ago

argonaut 10y ago

Yes, but that's the problem. Just "letting it do its thing" and relaxing/trusting/expecting it to "do the right thing" is what leads to accidents like this. And if you trust Autopilot to do the right thing, and get into a fatal accident, Tesla will say you should have been paying attention!

sethjgore 10y ago
Isn't that similar to saying horseless carriages cannot be as good as horses? Our experience in driving is never compared to the experience of riding in a carriage or even harnessing a horse. Driving is considered a discrete experience in its own class. Perhaps our fears and expectations of mechanical error is ignorant of our own overconfidence in our own driving control. Are we always in control of our attention? Do we always make the most accurate observations as we drive? Why do we establish the experience of being driven by autopilot as something comparable to the actual action of human, hand-feet-sight-controlled driving (steering wheel-acceleration/deacceleration-dashboard/windshield/mirrors)? We cannot trust the horse to do the same things as the car nor can we trust the car to do be same as horse. We are on the cusp of moving responsibility from the human engineered transport (car) to the machine engineered (autopilot) transport, which transfer was previously animal to human engineered transport (horse to car). We will believe what establishes our worldview and ignore what demolishes the same foundations.
- argonaut 10y ago
  No, it's not the same. Not sure why you think that analogy even makes sense.
eclipxe 10y ago
You missed my: >but be ready to resume control if needed Let it do it's thing, relax, but be vigilant and ready to take over. It's not that hard. Watch the road, watch the dash and what it sees, if something goes awry (happens rarely) then just resume control.