> but developer tools have no place in a default Firefox install Completely agree! But the fact is, Google shipped them anyway, and so people began using them.

> but developer tools have no place in a default Firefox install Completely agree! But the fact is, Google shipped them anyway, and so people began using them. Now Firefox has to live with the (unintended) consequence of their decision. > Well, Chrome and Android are both Google projects; we could say that Chrome was late to FirefoxOS ;) Sure, but marketshare! My point is, Mozilla is doubly disadvantaged by having to battle against a vertical entity (Google), AND also being very late to the game on that platform. > I'd do a quick checking in FF or Chrome (whichever I had open) to spot glaring problems I'm pretty sure this is what most people do, and that's the problem, because most of the danger is from stuff that's only subtly broken, that a quick look won't catch. The non-web world has automated tests to help with this. Maybe we need tests that can run inside the browser script engine to test our webapps.