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Why is science viewed as a competition there?
by jsprogrammer 10y ago
Why is science viewed as a competition there?
- dflock 10y agoFor exactly the same reasons it is everywhere in the world: because there isn't enough funding to go around - and the grant application process is explicitly designed to be competitive.
- jsprogrammer 10y agoIt doesn't seem to be everywhere though. I know in the US, research is often collaborative and a single grant may fund many researchers. Those researchers do not seem to be competing internally for funding (though, I have seen conflict as to whose name should appear first on a publication!). I presume the same is likely true in Australia. Why is some research able to be collaborative while other must (apparently) be competitive?
- apathy 10y agoYou are quite mistaken, imho. The pay line for NIH grants is around 15% and for NSF grants it's more like 10%.
- apathy 10y agoNote also that collaborations compete with other collaborations for program grants, and R01s (the measure of a "real" PI) are inherently not collaborative. They are by their very nature competitive. And they are the metric by which principal investigators are judged.
- jsprogrammer 10y agoMany real PIs support collaborating researchers and students though.
- apathy 10y agoRight, but students are written into the grant. Ultimately, nobody gives a shit which post doc or student you put on a project; the assumption (often flawed) is that they're all the same as far as the modular budget is concerned. If they were special, the reasoning goes, they'd have their own F32 or T32 to work on the project.
- Fomite 10y agoBecause there's a finite pool of money.
- danieltillett 10y agoIt is a competitive everywhere, just in Australia you are playing in a much smaller pool. There just is not enough money to fund all good grant applications.