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How light is servo + browser.html? you seem to be implying it's much less than electron. Any figures? I haven't looked at Servo / browser.html / rust at all apa

How light is servo + browser.html? you seem to be implying it's much less than electron. Any figures? I haven't looked at Servo / browser.html / rust at all apart from seeing a few news articles pop up on HN the last few months.

nathancahill 10y ago
Hard to say since it's still in development. Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in. But it's focus is on parallelism and performance, so I have high hopes. Slack (a flagship of Electron apps) is currently using 850mb of ram, idle in the background. Firefox with 50 tabs open is using the same amount.
- nickpsecurity 10y ago
  Holy crap! 850MB for a chat client!? Just made the argument for truly, native apps right there.
nachtigall 10y ago
See this demo comparing Chrome, Firefox and Servo WebRender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0hYIRQRiws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0hYIRQRiws Servo WebRender uses the GPU making it much faster than classic renderers (besides CPU parallelism), think of it like a Webbrowser using Video Gaming technology. There's a talk about this at https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ (HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11175258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11175258) browser.html is just the current "skin" for Servo.
- tehbeard 10y ago
  Any tests done on integrated graphics such as those in normal laptops?
  - ronjouch 10y ago
    In https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ , - At 03:00: pcwalton explains how this experiment leans on the GPU-ization of our Intel CPUs since Haswell. - At 14:50: slide says "WebRender supports OpenGL ES 2.1 and OpenGL 3.x" - "Benchmarks" at 26:00 running on his macbook, which may fit what you are looking for TL;DR, yes this early work is for "integrated graphics such as those in normal laptops". Or try it yourself on your laptop with a nightly build: http://blog.servo.org/2016/06/30/servo-nightlies/ http://blog.servo.org/2016/06/30/servo-nightlies/
  - Manishearth 10y ago
    It works awesomely on both integrated and discrete graphics for me. IIRC Patrick and Glenn, the people who wrote webrender, by default use integrated graphics anyway (at least one of them does). Software rendering makes it choke sometimes (other times it works surprisingly smoothly, but it depends on the load), but that is to be expected :)
- Touche 10y ago
  I think the grandparent was referring to things like startup speed and memory consumption when they said "lighter", not rendering performance.

nathancahill 10y ago

Hard to say since it's still in development. Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in. But it's focus is on parallelism and performance, so I have high hopes. Slack (a flagship of Electron apps) is currently using 850mb of ram, idle in the background. Firefox with 50 tabs open is using the same amount.

nickpsecurity 10y ago
Holy crap! 850MB for a chat client!? Just made the argument for truly, native apps right there.

nachtigall 10y ago

See this demo comparing Chrome, Firefox and Servo WebRender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0hYIRQRiws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0hYIRQRiws Servo WebRender uses the GPU making it much faster than classic renderers (besides CPU parallelism), think of it like a Webbrowser using Video Gaming technology. There's a talk about this at https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ (HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11175258 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11175258) browser.html is just the current "skin" for Servo.

tehbeard 10y ago
Any tests done on integrated graphics such as those in normal laptops?
- ronjouch 10y ago
  In https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ https://air.mozilla.org/bay-area-rust-meetup-february-2016/ , - At 03:00: pcwalton explains how this experiment leans on the GPU-ization of our Intel CPUs since Haswell. - At 14:50: slide says "WebRender supports OpenGL ES 2.1 and OpenGL 3.x" - "Benchmarks" at 26:00 running on his macbook, which may fit what you are looking for TL;DR, yes this early work is for "integrated graphics such as those in normal laptops". Or try it yourself on your laptop with a nightly build: http://blog.servo.org/2016/06/30/servo-nightlies/ http://blog.servo.org/2016/06/30/servo-nightlies/
- Manishearth 10y ago
  It works awesomely on both integrated and discrete graphics for me. IIRC Patrick and Glenn, the people who wrote webrender, by default use integrated graphics anyway (at least one of them does). Software rendering makes it choke sometimes (other times it works surprisingly smoothly, but it depends on the load), but that is to be expected :)
Touche 10y ago
I think the grandparent was referring to things like startup speed and memory consumption when they said "lighter", not rendering performance.