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This test is quite criticised[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93B

by Zolomon 10y ago

This test is quite criticised[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indi...

dev360 10y ago
I can see it being useful for team training though.
pfooti 10y ago
Also: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/go... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-myers-briggs-personality-test-is-pretty-much-meaningless-9359770/ http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-myers-briggs-pe... The MBTI is about as valid as a horoscope, and people actually make hiring decisions based on it. It is probably useful to help introverts understand extroverts and so on, and maybe help people have conversations about personality differences, but it is pretty bad at diagnosing actual personalities beyond "a dark-haired stranger will meet you"
- nyc640 10y ago
  I don't see how you can say an assessment based on people's actual behavior is about as valid as completely made up predictions based on the alignment of the stars when you were born. I think it's pretty obvious your MBTI can say more about you than your horoscope can. Not that I disagree with you that hiring decisions should not be made based on MBTI, nor can we categorize all people into 16 personality types.
  - pfooti 10y ago
    The point is more along the lines of: the MBTI really can't tell you much. It has very bad psychometric properties (people regular test differently on different days, or show as a mix of two supposed opposing factors). As a theoretical framework, there is little in the way of peer reviewed work to even support anything other than introversion - extroversion as a measure. MBTI is pretty much pseudoscience that we keep using because it Feels Correct. Psychics and astrologers do the same thing - make broad and generic claims to make you think they're talking to you because you fill the gaps in the story. So, it's an aggressive claim I make yes. Partly (perhaps largely) driven by the fact that too many otherwise reasonable people do not treat the MBTI with the skepticism it deserves (again, hiring decisions are made and justified based on this pseudoscience). But partly because I've been through both the long form MBTI test and explanation (with subfactors, where I was thoroughly mixed with stuff that wasn't supposed to correlate) and the explanation phase felt precisely like a psychic reading.
miguelrochefort 10y ago
My experience is purely anecdotic, but I found MBTI to be incredibly accurate. I can't think of anything that lead to more introspection than this test.

by Zolomon 10y ago

This test is quite criticised[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator#Criticism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indi...

dev360 10y ago

I can see it being useful for team training though.

pfooti 10y ago

Also: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/give-and-take/201309/go... http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-myers-briggs-personality-test-is-pretty-much-meaningless-9359770/ http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/the-myers-briggs-pe... The MBTI is about as valid as a horoscope, and people actually make hiring decisions based on it. It is probably useful to help introverts understand extroverts and so on, and maybe help people have conversations about personality differences, but it is pretty bad at diagnosing actual personalities beyond "a dark-haired stranger will meet you"

nyc640 10y ago
I don't see how you can say an assessment based on people's actual behavior is about as valid as completely made up predictions based on the alignment of the stars when you were born. I think it's pretty obvious your MBTI can say more about you than your horoscope can. Not that I disagree with you that hiring decisions should not be made based on MBTI, nor can we categorize all people into 16 personality types.
- pfooti 10y ago
  The point is more along the lines of: the MBTI really can't tell you much. It has very bad psychometric properties (people regular test differently on different days, or show as a mix of two supposed opposing factors). As a theoretical framework, there is little in the way of peer reviewed work to even support anything other than introversion - extroversion as a measure. MBTI is pretty much pseudoscience that we keep using because it Feels Correct. Psychics and astrologers do the same thing - make broad and generic claims to make you think they're talking to you because you fill the gaps in the story. So, it's an aggressive claim I make yes. Partly (perhaps largely) driven by the fact that too many otherwise reasonable people do not treat the MBTI with the skepticism it deserves (again, hiring decisions are made and justified based on this pseudoscience). But partly because I've been through both the long form MBTI test and explanation (with subfactors, where I was thoroughly mixed with stuff that wasn't supposed to correlate) and the explanation phase felt precisely like a psychic reading.

miguelrochefort 10y ago

My experience is purely anecdotic, but I found MBTI to be incredibly accurate. I can't think of anything that lead to more introspection than this test.