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> and even worse it rarely improves the quality of the paper being reviewed. That might be your experience, but I think it has significantly improved the quali

by xioxox 10y ago

> and even worse it rarely improves the quality of the paper being reviewed. That might be your experience, but I think it has significantly improved the quality of a large fraction of the papers I have been an author or co-author on. I have encountered one bad reviewer in the past, and in retrospect perhaps I should have taken more notice of his report. As a reviewer, I've only had one negative incident, which was when my comments were overridden by the editor. My experience might be specific in my subject, as we only have one referee per paper.

danieltillett 10y ago
I am curious as to what improvements the reviewers made to your papers? What areas did they improve? In the case of the one paper of mine that was improved one of the reviewers noticed a connection between our data and a paper published 10 years before in a different field that made our work much more interesting. Of course after incorporating this the editor rejected the paper despite all three reviewers saying it should be published. The editor of the next journal I sent the paper to was happy especially as the paper has since picked up over 1000 citations, but such is the vagaries of peer review.
- xioxox 10y ago
  The suggestions have included alternative explanations for the results, useful checks on the data analysis procedures, sensible ways to restructure a paper, useful plots which could be included, places where the text was unclear, indicating where our claims were too strong, how to strengthen the paper by comparisons with theory. One referee's questions were useful to reveal that an undergraduate's paper (of which I was a co-author) had some fairly serious flaws which required it was withdrawn. Fortunately this has been the only "rejection" I've suffered so far, other than papers speculatively submitted to Nature or Science which were later published in mainstream journals. In astronomy and astrophysics we are fortunate to have only 3-4 major journals with similar impact factors.
  - danieltillett 10y ago
    I wish that was the way the biological sciences worked. My personal favourite peer review process story was from one of my first papers where I wrote up the whole thing and my supervisor added his name and sent it off. This was in the pre-electronic days where you physically posted off the manuscript. Serveral months when by and we heard nothing. After around six months of silence my supervisor decides to ring the editor and find out what is happening (proactive he was not). The editor tells him "oh didn't you know that paper was published a couple of months ago" - not a single change made or reviewers comment to deal with. I wish all my subsequent papers had gone like that :)

by xioxox 10y ago

danieltillett 10y ago

I am curious as to what improvements the reviewers made to your papers? What areas did they improve? In the case of the one paper of mine that was improved one of the reviewers noticed a connection between our data and a paper published 10 years before in a different field that made our work much more interesting. Of course after incorporating this the editor rejected the paper despite all three reviewers saying it should be published. The editor of the next journal I sent the paper to was happy especially as the paper has since picked up over 1000 citations, but such is the vagaries of peer review.

xioxox 10y ago
The suggestions have included alternative explanations for the results, useful checks on the data analysis procedures, sensible ways to restructure a paper, useful plots which could be included, places where the text was unclear, indicating where our claims were too strong, how to strengthen the paper by comparisons with theory. One referee's questions were useful to reveal that an undergraduate's paper (of which I was a co-author) had some fairly serious flaws which required it was withdrawn. Fortunately this has been the only "rejection" I've suffered so far, other than papers speculatively submitted to Nature or Science which were later published in mainstream journals. In astronomy and astrophysics we are fortunate to have only 3-4 major journals with similar impact factors.
- danieltillett 10y ago
  I wish that was the way the biological sciences worked. My personal favourite peer review process story was from one of my first papers where I wrote up the whole thing and my supervisor added his name and sent it off. This was in the pre-electronic days where you physically posted off the manuscript. Serveral months when by and we heard nothing. After around six months of silence my supervisor decides to ring the editor and find out what is happening (proactive he was not). The editor tells him "oh didn't you know that paper was published a couple of months ago" - not a single change made or reviewers comment to deal with. I wish all my subsequent papers had gone like that :)