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On the same note, a while ago I mapped Washington's farewell address. The original to vernacular. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsaJDi5AMLicz1HKd4tgmiCcu

by vumgl 10y ago

On the same note, a while ago I mapped Washington's farewell address. The original to vernacular. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsaJDi5AMLicz1HKd4tgmiCcuC9RreSddfVKnO9K90U/pub https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsaJDi5AMLicz1HKd4tgmiCc...

LeifCarrotson 10y ago
> The name of american, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles. > You’ve gotta be Americans before all else. You’re for the most part the same religion and culture... It's interesting that Washington acknowledged the binding effect that shared culture has on a nation. I see the Nordic countries praised often on HN, and the counterpoint is always some variety of "but they have little diversity". I wonder what Washington would say about the US and the effects of a variety of ethnic, linguistic, religious, and cultural heritages now?
- ZeroGravitas 10y ago
  The US has always had a diverse variety of ethnic, linguistic, religious and cultural heritage. I'd guess that's part of the reason he's expressly telling them to ignore the differences.
  - LeifCarrotson 10y ago
    That's not what Washington thought: > ....you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles...
    - ZeroGravitas 10y ago
      You left off the start: "With slight shades of difference, ..." Given that egregious quote mining, I guess you'd be immune to subtle arguments about context e.g. does someone stand at the head of an exclusively Lutheran Church and make a speech about how they should ignore their religious differences, no, that would be redundant. Which implies he knows there are differences enough for them to turn on each other if they don't make an effort to pull together.
hiram112 10y ago
Nice translation. I'd love to see more of this type of thing; it is really difficult to read a lot of good texts from hundreds of years ago due to the changes in prose. Sadly, it seems like we as a nation have broken nearly every rule Washington warned us about - political infighting, foreign entanglements, etc. Finally, it was interesting to note the 10th paragraph about similar culture, values, religion, etc. It seems the Globalists have spent the last 30 years trying to counter this idea with the opposite one that diversity, multiculturalism, etc. is the way to go.

by vumgl 10y ago

LeifCarrotson 10y ago

> The name of american, which belongs to you, in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of Patriotism, more than any appellation derived from local discriminations. With slight shades of difference, you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles. > You’ve gotta be Americans before all else. You’re for the most part the same religion and culture... It's interesting that Washington acknowledged the binding effect that shared culture has on a nation. I see the Nordic countries praised often on HN, and the counterpoint is always some variety of "but they have little diversity". I wonder what Washington would say about the US and the effects of a variety of ethnic, linguistic, religious, and cultural heritages now?

ZeroGravitas 10y ago
The US has always had a diverse variety of ethnic, linguistic, religious and cultural heritage. I'd guess that's part of the reason he's expressly telling them to ignore the differences.
- LeifCarrotson 10y ago
  That's not what Washington thought: > ....you have the same religion, manners, habits, and political principles...
  - ZeroGravitas 10y ago
    You left off the start: "With slight shades of difference, ..." Given that egregious quote mining, I guess you'd be immune to subtle arguments about context e.g. does someone stand at the head of an exclusively Lutheran Church and make a speech about how they should ignore their religious differences, no, that would be redundant. Which implies he knows there are differences enough for them to turn on each other if they don't make an effort to pull together.

hiram112 10y ago

Nice translation. I'd love to see more of this type of thing; it is really difficult to read a lot of good texts from hundreds of years ago due to the changes in prose. Sadly, it seems like we as a nation have broken nearly every rule Washington warned us about - political infighting, foreign entanglements, etc. Finally, it was interesting to note the 10th paragraph about similar culture, values, religion, etc. It seems the Globalists have spent the last 30 years trying to counter this idea with the opposite one that diversity, multiculturalism, etc. is the way to go.