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Warrant canaries have outlived their usefulness. Did anyone stop using Reddit when they removed theirs? Or Apple products, when they removed theirs?
by AdmiralAsshat 10y ago
Warrant canaries have outlived their usefulness. Did anyone stop using Reddit when they removed theirs? Or Apple products, when they removed theirs?
- anonbanker 10y agoSadly, you're correct, but not for the reason you mean. People don't care about their rights anymore, having traded them in for convenience. Because "war". EDIT: maybe the downvoters could respond with how I'm wrong?
- cbsmith 10y agoI'm sure some people did. Probably the same number of people who started using them because the canaries were there. However, that doesn't mean users haven't changed their behaviour in response to warrant canaries. It's just not a lot of people, and it isn't clear we want it to be that way either. We don't want there to be a disincentive for companies creating them.
- knowaveragejoe 10y agoTo continue this line of thinking, the case can be made that warrant canaries could be used to flush out a subset of users from a service, among whom are those that would be considered "interesting" by intelligence agencies.
- cbsmith 10y agoI mean... realistically, what is the point of using a service because of a canary if you didn't think about what your plan would be if the canary disappeared?
- cbsmith 10y agoWell, the most hard core of those would probably not be drawn in by canaries or would proceed to fill the channel with disinformation in response to changes.
- n1000 10y agoPeople keep saying that. But I don't quite see why? Can anyone enlighten me?