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> Has there been anything like this before? If I work for the government and forward confidential and secret emails through to a server I'm running myself I ima

by GVIrish 10y ago

> Has there been anything like this before? If I work for the government and forward confidential and secret emails through to a server I'm running myself I imagine I'd have criminal proceedings against me. Unlikely. You would lose your job for sure, but typically for a criminal prosecution to result there has to be an element of willful unauthorized disclosure of classified info, or very high impact of the disclosure of classified info. In practice this means that the people who get prosecuted have almost always been people intentionally sharing secrets with foreign entities (spying). I only know of one case where charges were brought against someone who was not doing that. It was when the feds retaliated against Thomas Drake for whistleblowing against the NSA. Even then the charges got dropped.

steve_g 10y ago
Kristian Saucier - https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier He took photos of a sub he was stationed on, apparently just for his own use, with no intention of "spying" He's going to jail for a few years.
- throwanem 10y ago
  Might want to edit that link to: https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier or flag it NSFW - when I clicked it, SafeSearch bounced me to the one I just posted. I'm actually at work, so don't intend to investigate, but my guess is "Kristen Saucier" is a different person in a different line of work.
  - steve_g 10y ago
    Done - thanks.
- GVIrish 10y ago
  In that situation, the military may sometimes be stricter than a civilian agency would be for the same infraction. Anything dealing with nuclear tech has a higher chance of turning into a much bigger deal. The other thing is that he tried to destroy evidence, which usually makes matter worse. Be that as it may, cases like Saucier's are fairly rare. It happens, but it's the exception rather than the rule.

by GVIrish 10y ago

steve_g 10y ago

Kristian Saucier - https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier He took photos of a sub he was stationed on, apparently just for his own use, with no intention of "spying" He's going to jail for a few years.

throwanem 10y ago
Might want to edit that link to: https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&q=kristian+saucier or flag it NSFW - when I clicked it, SafeSearch bounced me to the one I just posted. I'm actually at work, so don't intend to investigate, but my guess is "Kristen Saucier" is a different person in a different line of work.
- steve_g 10y ago
  Done - thanks.
GVIrish 10y ago
In that situation, the military may sometimes be stricter than a civilian agency would be for the same infraction. Anything dealing with nuclear tech has a higher chance of turning into a much bigger deal. The other thing is that he tried to destroy evidence, which usually makes matter worse. Be that as it may, cases like Saucier's are fairly rare. It happens, but it's the exception rather than the rule.