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I believe yes. Similar things occurred with Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. The precedent being set is: if you're a government officer or official, you're ex

by jrs235 10y ago

I believe yes. Similar things occurred with Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice. The precedent being set is: if you're a government officer or official, you're exempt from the law. And even though that may not be the full truth, its the perception that the public is picking up on and it's very bad to be occurring. Depending on who you are, who your friends are, and who you know, if you have the connections you can rest not having to know the law(s). You and I? We must always be on alert, vigilant, and know all the laws at all times lest we be prosecuted. No wonder trust in government is eroding. We need to either a) actually enforce the laws on the books or b) remove the laws from the books we don't intend to faithfully enforce. Selective enforcement is a tragedy.

gallonofmilk 10y ago
eww this really makes me despise her
basch 10y ago
>Similar things occurred with Colin Powell not even close. he had a personal aol account he used to test internet connections abroad. he had separate classified and personal lines going into his office, connected to separate devices.
- tzs 10y ago
  There was classified email in Powell's personal, non-classified email account [1] [2] [3]. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-cla... [2] http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes-past-secretaries-of-state/209044 http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes... [3] http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/...
  - basch 10y ago
    there were two emails, sent to him, that were retroactively marked as classified. he personally reviewed them and said he has no idea why they are marked classified, and they shouldnt be. sounds like politics to me.
jcadam 10y ago
> the precedent being set is: if you're a government officer or official, you're exempt from the law. And if you vote for HRC, you're endorsing this POV. Though, at this point I'm willing to believe that at least half the country has no problem with it.
- throwanem 10y ago
  Who doesn't love the politics of consequentialism?
- lamontcg 10y ago
  The Reagan Administration sold arms to Iran and used it to fund the Nicaraguan Contras. Bill Clinton got a blowjob and lied about it. George W. Bush invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and created a 13 year mess that has culminated with the creation of ISIS. Hillary Clinton mishandled some classified e-mails.
  - shitgoose 10y ago
    creation of ISIS is the result to Hillary's and Obama's policies. Bill looks kinda odd in this list. i like the guy, he lived good life.
    - shitgoose 10y ago
      before you downvote, try to remember who invaded Lybia, which opened major can of jihady worms. maybe you also remember Bengazi. then think which president started mess in Syria (second major source of jihadies and home to ISIS). Bush was a moron, but it doesn't mean we should blame him for everything.
chris11 10y ago
I think there is a difference between administrative consequences and legal consequences. And Comey was running a criminal investigation. I think that she should not be able to get a security clearance for any unelected position. I don't really think that she escaped a criminal conviction because of who she is. I also think that +50% of voters electing her president should override that concern if she wins this election. But that's not because I think the law shouldn't apply to her, its because I think the president needs access to classified material.

by jrs235 10y ago

gallonofmilk 10y ago

eww this really makes me despise her

basch 10y ago

>Similar things occurred with Colin Powell not even close. he had a personal aol account he used to test internet connections abroad. he had separate classified and personal lines going into his office, connected to separate devices.

tzs 10y ago
There was classified email in Powell's personal, non-classified email account [1] [2] [3]. [1] http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-cla... [2] http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes-past-secretaries-of-state/209044 http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes... [3] http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-said-my-predecessors-did-same-thin/ http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/...
- basch 10y ago
  there were two emails, sent to him, that were retroactively marked as classified. he personally reviewed them and said he has no idea why they are marked classified, and they shouldnt be. sounds like politics to me.

jcadam 10y ago

> the precedent being set is: if you're a government officer or official, you're exempt from the law. And if you vote for HRC, you're endorsing this POV. Though, at this point I'm willing to believe that at least half the country has no problem with it.

throwanem 10y ago
Who doesn't love the politics of consequentialism?
lamontcg 10y ago
The Reagan Administration sold arms to Iran and used it to fund the Nicaraguan Contras. Bill Clinton got a blowjob and lied about it. George W. Bush invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 and created a 13 year mess that has culminated with the creation of ISIS. Hillary Clinton mishandled some classified e-mails.
- shitgoose 10y ago
  creation of ISIS is the result to Hillary's and Obama's policies. Bill looks kinda odd in this list. i like the guy, he lived good life.
  - shitgoose 10y ago
    before you downvote, try to remember who invaded Lybia, which opened major can of jihady worms. maybe you also remember Bengazi. then think which president started mess in Syria (second major source of jihadies and home to ISIS). Bush was a moron, but it doesn't mean we should blame him for everything.

chris11 10y ago

I think there is a difference between administrative consequences and legal consequences. And Comey was running a criminal investigation. I think that she should not be able to get a security clearance for any unelected position. I don't really think that she escaped a criminal conviction because of who she is. I also think that +50% of voters electing her president should override that concern if she wins this election. But that's not because I think the law shouldn't apply to her, its because I think the president needs access to classified material.