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What are we up to now? Three preloaded spyware scandals, possible remote execution via the Intel stack and now this vulnerability. That's just what we know abou

What are we up to now? Three preloaded spyware scandals, possible remote execution via the Intel stack and now this vulnerability. That's just what we know about, who knows what else exists. I don't think I can buy another one, which is sad as I think it was a timeless and great design.

esaym 10y ago
I plan on using my quad core T520 for probably another 5+ years. All of their laptops after the T520 series have the full size keyboard with numberpad which off-sets the center of the keyboard, so now your typing is mostly happing on the left side of the keyboard and that causes wrist strain. Having a numberpad is really lame on a laptop. I won't buy one and I know of no one else that likes the numberpad either.. sadly many manufactures are doing the same.
- ovrdrv3 10y ago
  Wow this was actually going to be a major buying factor in my next Laptop, was really considering a gaming laptop for the numpad but I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to buy a bluetooth numpad for the right side of the keyboard/get used to the numbers above the keyboard. Thanks for this angle. Never considered wrist strain.
- 51Cards 10y ago
  Also hanging on to my W530 for a long time. One of the reasons (in a long list) is the centered keyboard.
- teddyc 10y ago
  Numberpad on a laptop is a deal breaker for me, too.
- Nexxxeh 10y ago
  Some heavy Excel and Sage users would disagree.
dandelion_lover 10y ago
> What are we up to now? I am about to buy and advice to others the only freedom-respecting laptops [0]. [0] https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ and https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/
- JonathonW 10y ago
  AKA refurbished Lenovo hardware?
  - dandelion_lover 10y ago
    Yes, with BIOS replaced with free software and wi-fi card replaced with a freedom-respecting one. I do not see any problems in that.
    - yuhong 10y ago
      I dislike how it does not do microcode updates though.
      - admax88q 10y ago
        You could certainly do the microcode updates yourself.
        Sanddancer 10y ago
        Which would involve needing to reinstall the OS, or at least the kernel, because Trisquel strips out the kernel drivers needed to update the microcode.
ff10 10y ago
I own a couple of Apple notebooks. Two years ago I bought a used X201 because I needed a Linux backup (official excuse) and because I love the design (actual reason). It's completely different from Apple's approach and Richard Sapper's original draft is still visible in those machines. And it runs Ubuntu just fine with an SSD upgrade and still enough memory for all purposes I have.

esaym 10y ago

I plan on using my quad core T520 for probably another 5+ years. All of their laptops after the T520 series have the full size keyboard with numberpad which off-sets the center of the keyboard, so now your typing is mostly happing on the left side of the keyboard and that causes wrist strain. Having a numberpad is really lame on a laptop. I won't buy one and I know of no one else that likes the numberpad either.. sadly many manufactures are doing the same.

ovrdrv3 10y ago
Wow this was actually going to be a major buying factor in my next Laptop, was really considering a gaming laptop for the numpad but I guess it wouldn't be too difficult to buy a bluetooth numpad for the right side of the keyboard/get used to the numbers above the keyboard. Thanks for this angle. Never considered wrist strain.
51Cards 10y ago
Also hanging on to my W530 for a long time. One of the reasons (in a long list) is the centered keyboard.
teddyc 10y ago
Numberpad on a laptop is a deal breaker for me, too.
Nexxxeh 10y ago
Some heavy Excel and Sage users would disagree.

dandelion_lover 10y ago

> What are we up to now? I am about to buy and advice to others the only freedom-respecting laptops [0]. [0] https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/ and https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/ https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-x200/

JonathonW 10y ago
AKA refurbished Lenovo hardware?
- dandelion_lover 10y ago
  Yes, with BIOS replaced with free software and wi-fi card replaced with a freedom-respecting one. I do not see any problems in that.
  - yuhong 10y ago
    I dislike how it does not do microcode updates though.
    - admax88q 10y ago
      You could certainly do the microcode updates yourself.
      - Sanddancer 10y ago
        Which would involve needing to reinstall the OS, or at least the kernel, because Trisquel strips out the kernel drivers needed to update the microcode.

ff10 10y ago

I own a couple of Apple notebooks. Two years ago I bought a used X201 because I needed a Linux backup (official excuse) and because I love the design (actual reason). It's completely different from Apple's approach and Richard Sapper's original draft is still visible in those machines. And it runs Ubuntu just fine with an SSD upgrade and still enough memory for all purposes I have.